Baines: We have no chemistry

[Houghty19]

This must make me weird but I kind of understand the pickled onion thing.

 

[neil999]

You off your meds again neil you buffoon

go away father!

 

[Bungle]

go away father!

Can't speak right now neil, got 72 more of these pickled onions to get through today.

Jesus christ.

 

[Tree13]

People are going on about winning our first silverware for 21 years is bad, just because RM could be in charge for just another year. Couldn't care who is in charge whenever we win a trophy.

Didn't realise twitter had the power to make life rules, thanks for putting me straight. FFS.

As you well know, there are more possible outcomes at play than just those two. Quite amazing that this type of WUMming is allowed.

 

[Efcjake]

Misinterpreted or not it was a very fair and honest criticism from Baines and it wasn't done maliciously, he didn't point any fingers or name and names. What he said is not far off how the majority of Evertonians are feeling about the team right now.

What has followed is more of the same from Martinez that we've seen over the last 2 years when he's come under criticism, making excuses and throwing others under the bus.

Today was a last straw for me. Martinez' press conferences have concerned me more than the terrible performances he has managed to get from this squad. The man outright refuses to take responsibility for our position and for individual matches as well. That isn't a leader and it isn't a surprise that there is unrest amongst the ranks when you know that the crap is rolling downhill from him onto the players.

Nevermind what has happened on the football side of things, I seriously doubt is ability to be a leader for these players and that's the main reason I want him gone.

 

[neil999]

Can't speak right now neil, got 72 more of these pickled onions to get through today.

Jesus christ.

sorry

 

[neil999]

Misinterpreted or not it was a very fair and honest criticism from Baines and it wasn't done maliciously, he didn't point any fingers or name and names. What he said is not far off how the majority of Evertonians are feeling about the team right now.

What has followed is more of the same from Martinez that we've seen over the last 2 years when he's come under criticism, making excuses and throwing others under the bus.

Today was a last straw for me. Martinez' press conferences have concerned me more than the terrible performances he has managed to get from this squad. The man outright refuses to take responsibility for our position and for individual matches as well. That isn't a leader and it isn't a surprise that there is unrest amongst the ranks when you know that the crap is rolling downhill from him onto the players.

Nevermind what has happened on the football side of things, I seriously doubt is ability to be a leader for these players and that's the main reason I want him gone.

mourinho does exactly the same thing tho

 

[GwladysBlue]

Let's not forget that before Baines played for us he was also an Evertonian.

No Evertonian wants to see us do badly, and he called it how he sees it.

Not everyone is blind to our failings, Martinez.

 

[Tree13]

Please don't characterise other posters, it's poor forum etiquette.

I'm not sure I understand you there boss.

 

[Space Cowboy]

I'm sad that Baines didn't have the ego to say 'KOFF el Fraudo', but sadly we don't know what's gone on behind closed doors.

 

[Efcjake]

mourinho does exactly the same thing tho

And he got sacked for it didn't he?

 

[neil999]

And he got sacked for it didn't he?

no...he got sacked cos the results were terrible...he actually talked more nonsense about refs than Martinez, but its easily forgivable as he wins titles

 

[mightymoyes]

mourinho does exactly the same thing tho

mourinho has success behind him to back his ballbagness up

 

[neil999]

mourinho has success behind him to back his ballbagness up

exactimum as said above

 

[Kendall's Dream]

Didn't realise twitter had the power to make life rules, thanks for putting me straight. FFS.

As you well know, there are more possible outcomes at play than just those two. Quite amazing that this type of WUMming is allowed.

Instead of chatting about 'wum' why don't you have a proper debate without attempting to insult others? You said everyone wants to win the cup, I gave you an example that disagree with you, even @Ashtonian 's post disagreed with you and he's Martinez out.

And I can clearly see everyone's point that they want the manager gone even if we do win the cup but can anyone really see that happening? With Kenwright in charge, do you think he (and Moshiri) will sack the manager who won us our first trophy in 20 years? And if he isn't sacked, do you honestly see Martinez leaving? He's always going on about a plan, 5 years etc - no chance he is leaving on his choice.