Allardyce v Silva Conundrum

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Look lads, I'm pro-Dyche

If you disagree then fair enough, but I believe he's a good manager

 

[davek]

Don't see the point. Only thing that hasn't changed for 3 different managers this season is the same DOF. Silva or anyone won't stop the rot.

He goes in the summer.

Silva in now to get a head start on the summer bulldozing.

 

[DiplomaticTone - diplomatictone96@mail.com]

Look lads, I'm pro-Dyche

If you disagree then fair enough, but I believe he's a good manager

He’s the worst manager ever.

 

[willo30]

He goes in the summer.

Silva in now to get a head start on the summer bulldozing.

But I'm not sure what he can actually do. What power if any would he have? 3 managers all churning out the same performances and results this season can't just be a coincidence. We are wasting loads of money changing managers, are we sure we are changing the correct role?

 

[mutley]

BFS until the end of the season and then someone else,

Silva has done nothing in the game to be Everton manager.

 

[Jeff Jones]

Silva everytime - Watford have downed tools since Allardyce was appointed and they are still top half because of how Silva had them set up and playing.

So are we, and we're talking about finding manager number four.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

I genuinely want Eddie Howe - the job he's done with Bournemouth is incredible, and he's apparently an Everton fan.

If we’re nicking anyone else’s manager, I’d take Howe.

 

[Timak]

Look lads, I'm pro-Dyche

If you disagree then fair enough, but I believe he's a good manager

He can be a good manager AND not be good enough for a club with ambition.

 

[Nymzee]

Where's the option for cheese on toast like?

 

[matty1878]

No it doesn't

Sean Dyche is a good manager

SO was Ronald Koeman mate. We need to swerve this country of and go abroad

 

[matty1878]

I think he's also ready to kick on

We can both kick on together

No Mikey mate just no.

 

[caught]

So are you;

Keep Allardyce indefinitely (full contract duration)

or

Keep Allardyce until the end of the season, bring someone else in

Option one.

Move fast and move decisively.

Allardyce is a defeated man. Pay him off and get the manager we went after so strongly for just a couple of months ago.

I'm firmly in the Allardyce out camp, although there might be something to be said for holding off until the summer, even if Silva is the man for Moshiri.

I'm not personally convinced on Silva but let's just say he's first choice: he was obviously very keen on the job and, one would imagine, might remain so. Not only does it make both him and us look capricious and negatively opportunistic to make the appointment now, there's also a pretty good chance that he'll struggle to turn around a lacklustre squad that have already underwhelmed for three different coaches this season, meaning Silva might start on a very negative footing.

If he came in and flopped in the final third of the season we'd probably be looking for another new manager come June.

If we were to agree with him that he'd be taking the job in the summer, he'd have the time and distance to properly plan for the summer and the season ahead, where he'd be able to start afresh and in a more positive manner. Possibly.

Obviously he'll turn out to be crap in the end because Everton.

 

[jinkyali]

For me, this is possibly the biggest test to date for Moshiri and how he handles it.

Ten weeks ago he effectively broke rules, offered significant sums to get his target. Obviously this failed and he went for a back up option no one really wanted.

He has a chance now to snare his number one, effectively for free and have him signed up to come in on day one in the summer. He would also be off work for six months so could work for us unofficially (study the players, look at targets etc) so in theory he could come in and hit the ground running, with a plan. Hell, he could even go and meet with Steve Walsh.

If he now doesn't get his man, as he will never have a better chance, then I worry for the way the club is going in terms of capturing targets. I also worry if now Moshiri doesn't want Silva as I would seriously doubt his judgement (further) if he can be swayed by a poor run of form.

He also has to deal with the fact Silva may be lined up by other clubs (Southampton I think would love him) and he also has to deal with the fact Silva doesn't appear very loyal.

If he was to get rid of Sam now (I don't believe Allardyce is the right man, I don't rate him) then I think that would look very poor to prospective candidates in the future though so I believe were stuck with him till the end of year.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Look lads, I'm pro-Dyche

If you disagree then fair enough, but I believe he's a good manager

I wanted Dyche when Koeman was sacked but if, as it unfortunately appears, we are waiting till May, then I'd look for better tbh. He would have been 1000000x better than Fat Sam though. We know 100% that Sam cannot bring us success even with some financial backing. At least there was a bit of hope and unknown with Dyche.

Alas, the panickers in our fans base and the board won the day.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I wanted Dyche when Koeman was sacked but if, as it unfortunately appears, we are waiting till May, then I'd look for better tbh. He would have been 1000000x better than Fat Sam though. We know 100% that Sam cannot bring us success even with some financial backing. At least there was a bit of hope and unknown with Dyche.

Alas, the panickers in our fans base and the board won the day.

Dyche was also my choice

Apparently we didn't even interview him

I doubt he'd have ditched Burnley mid-season anyway to be fair, but they could have at least made an approach FFS

Allardyce isn't here to "bring success"

He's here to stop us getting relegated

He was always a short term fix