Allardyce v Silva Conundrum

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Coz you want Sean dyche. That answers that lol

No it doesn't

Sean Dyche is a good manager

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Changing the manager again will affect very little until the end of the season. Full stop.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Well unless your a tactical genius like mourinho, most clubs win **** all with sitting back, **** on a stick football - which most British managers seem to do these days. So what do you want?

I think that style of football can be successful

You just have to do it right

Ultimately I don't care how Everton play so long as they get results. If we get results playing crap football then I'm fine with it

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Changing the manager again will affect very little until the end of the season. Full stop.

So are you;

Keep Allardyce indefinitely (full contract duration)

or

Keep Allardyce until the end of the season, bring someone else in

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

I have often banged the drum for Joachim Loew

Not only is he not from the Premier League he's not even in club football at the moment

I'd still love to have him at Everton

However, I would have to accept that not having experience in the League would raise questions of his suitability

And thats fair enough mate - lets be honest, right now any manager is a gamble... prem experience or not. Dyche would be just as big of a gamble as Loew, if not more based on the characters we have in our squad.

I would just probably hang my hat with someone who has a record for winning trophies (and a few other positives) then someone who has just managed in this league.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

So are you;

Keep Allardyce indefinitely (full contract duration)

or

Keep Allardyce until the end of the season, bring someone else in

The latter mate, I voted as such.

Allardyce isn't the answer, he never was, but we can't keep hiring and sacking managers mid season. It's a very slippery slope.

 

[willo30]

No it doesn't

Sean Dyche is a good manager

For Burnley. If we want to kick on we need better than Dyche.

 

[rstevens]

No it doesn't

Sean Dyche is a good manager

No he isn't. He is another GOT flavour of the month who has won sod all, been relegated twice, and apart from a good couple of months this season, he been largely crap as well. So tell me why he is good again?

 

[davek]

Option one.

Move fast and move decisively.

Allardyce is a defeated man. Pay him off and get the manager we went after so strongly for just a couple of months ago.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

For Burnley. If we want to kick on we need better than Dyche.

I think he's also ready to kick on

We can both kick on together

 

[suey_11]

Whoever is going to be in charge next season needs to be in now.

Look over the squad identify areas that need strengthening and identify targets.

Another crappy summer of us he or isn’t he will put us on the back foot again.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

No he isn't. He is another GOT flavour of the month who has won sod all, been relegated twice, and apart from a good couple of months this season, he been largely crap as well. So tell me why he is good again?

I disagree with you mate

I think he's taken a side like Burnley with comparatively buttons to spend and turned them into a convincing Premier League outfit

I think we have some decent players who could be moulded into a decent side

I think he can do that

If he does it winning 1-0 every week then I'm fine with that

If you disagree then fair enough. No need to be a tit about it like but hey-ho, to each his own

 

[willo30]

Option one.

Move fast and move decisively.

Allardyce is a defeated man. Pay him off and get the manager we went after so strongly for just a couple of months ago.

Don't see the point. Only thing that hasn't changed for 3 different managers this season is the same DOF. Silva or anyone won't stop the rot.

 

[caught]

I disagree old friend

I think Dyche has been working wonders at Burnley. He's got comparatively pennies to work with and had them banging on the door of the top 4 at points this season

To me, he'd be an excellent appointment

He's ready for that next step IMO

There are some parallels to be seen to what Dyche has achieved and what Allardyce did at Bolton, where both managers were given time and trust and, slowly, built teams that had the consistency and familiarity to take advantage of the changeable and erratic nature of the Premier League.

There's one other example that can be compared with those two, where a club gave a coach the freedom and support to develop a squad over the long term without the omnipresent risk of sacking: our longest serving manager in the modern era.

As Dyche has done with Burnley, Allardyce and Moyes built their reputations on a sustained level of consistency early on in their careers. Neither have achieved anything positive of note since (unless you want to reference Allardyce keeping Sunderland and Palace in the league) and both have been underwhelming/catastrophic in bigger jobs.

If you give a capable young coach full support and time to learn, there's a good chance he could get them to a 'punching above their weight' situation.

Everything about Dyche suggests he's of that ilk. He's not the manager for us under Moshiri and I don't think he'll even be in the discussion.

 

[ChesterBlue]

I genuinely want Eddie Howe - the job he's done with Bournemouth is incredible, and he's apparently an Everton fan.