Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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Maintain its telling that if the Dems spent the last 4 years readying a candidate that wasn’t Biden, that entire Haley base would have guaranteed the election for them. As it is, it’s a coin flip.
The Dem bench is pretty weak. Who would they 'ready' for the candidacy? At one time I thought Newsom was good shout, at this point his star has massively waned. Kamala would be a worse choice than Biden. That leaves the likes of Buttigieg. Buttigieg is probably the best of a bad bunch of options.
 
You could sit the POTUS election out given where you live.

But more and more it's the downballot stuff that matters as well
That's all decided in the primary around here. I play defense by voting for moderate Republicans, and they lose. The general is a sham election with preordained outcomes, other than ballot initiatives and amendments. Big surprises on the latter items prove it's free and fair, but they're the only reason to turn up.

Agreed. Every Biden speech I've ever seen results in me thanking the heavens in relief every time he strings two sentences together correctly. I'm on edge the whole time.

Granted the other guy can't string more than 5 words together that make sense, but that's another point altogether
He has always been able to read pre-prepped stuff, which is why he can still get through a State of the Union. Look up his rant at South Africa in a hearing on apartheid, if you want to see what he once was on that front.

Off-the-cuff is another matter. I think it always served him well in one-on-one and small group campaign stuff, where being too smooth comes off as fake, but these days hostile media will hammer a president the moment they aren't smooth as glass in front of a camera.
 
The Dem bench is pretty weak. Who would they 'ready' for the candidacy? At one time I thought Newsom was good shout, at this point his star has massively waned. Kamala would be a worse choice than Biden. That leaves the likes of Buttigieg. Buttigieg is probably the best of a bad bunch of options.
Newsom is awful. Buttigieg, Whitmer, or even Klobuchar I think could’ve succeeded. No candidate is perfect but they’re solid enough to have gotten it done had they been backed early. Of course there are political reasons they were not.
 
Newsom is awful. Buttigieg, Whitmer, or even Klobuchar I think could’ve succeeded. No candidate is perfect but they’re solid enough to have gotten it done had they been backed early. Of course there are political reasons they were not.
The Dems should have just let them fight it out in a good ole fashioned hard fought primary campaign. This option is no longer available. Of course this would have meant Biden standing aside. We're at the point where if Biden now steps aside it's gonna harken back to the old smoke filled rooms at the Dem convention to decide the nominee. Am I correct in this, or does the nomination automatically go to Kamala?
 
Oh, and I think we can safely predict the Libertarian Party will almost certainly receive less votes than usual at a GE. Ross Ulbricht is a cause celebre amongst libertarians. Trump has just taken a substantial chunk of the libertarian vote.
 
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People support this fella.
 
Oh, and I think we can safely predict the Libertarian Party will almost certainly receive less votes than usual at a GE. Ross Ulbricht is a cause celebre amongst libertarians. Trump has just taken a substantial chunk of the libertarian vote.
What are your thoughts on Everton though. Seems weird to be an Everton fan and only post in that forum twice.
 
Oh, and I think we can safely predict the Libertarian Party will almost certainly receive less votes than usual at a GE. Ross Ulbricht is a cause celebre amongst libertarians. Trump has just taken a substantial chunk of the libertarian vote.
They did everything short of booing him off the stage at their convention over the weekend. What are you even talking about?
 
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