Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

[Goat]

How am I 'picking him'?

By your friends......

 

[davek]

By your friends......

You've disqualified yourself here with your S*n style sensationalist peddling of lies.

 

[Rita_Poon]

By your friends......

 

[Goat]

You've disqualified yourself here with your S*n style sensationalist peddling of lies.

Dave, you literally posted stories from The S** political editor.

My conscience is crystal clear regarding that scum rag.

I suspect you feel pretty bad about it, so I will give you a pass, but you still havent said sorry and the whole forum saw it Dave, they ALL saw it.

So who do you want to win this 1 Dave, Biden or Trump?

 

[Ruairi77]

The polls are moving against Biden in the battleground states. Not decisively yet in all of them, but nevertheless it's looking like Trump takes the majority of them at this rate.

He's rightly haemorrhaging support over his Gaza War policy of arming the Israelis to carry out genocide.

Come November it'll be interesting to see if that's the same. However, he's a thoroughly dislikable career politician who's inaction over Gaza will define his presidency.

Bidens inaction on Gaza is, unfortunately, no where near as important as you think.

It could probably slot in behind

Immigration at the southern border
age
the economy
and maybe even Ukranian funding and the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Right now the polls are showing you who'll vote for Trump and Biden.
They're not showing you who'll vote against Trump or Biden.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

People support this fella.

The archetypal manbaby. lol

 

[davek]

Bidens inaction on Gaza is, unfortunately, no where near as important as you think.

It could probably slot in behind

Immigration at the southern border
age
the economy
and maybe even Ukranian funding and the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Right now the polls are showing you who'll vote for Trump and Biden.
They're not showing you who'll vote against Trump or Biden.

"The Reuters/Ipsos poll shows the Israel-Hamas war is dividing Biden’s base, with 44% of registered Democratic voters saying they disapprove of his handling of the conflict—among those voters, 77% said they would vote for Biden".

What does that amount to - roughly 11% of registered Democratic voters not committing to voting for him?

Biden Vs. Trump 2024 Election Polls: Trump Leads By 2 Points, Latest Survey Shows

Trump and Biden remain virtually tied in many polls, but Biden is losing support among key demographics.

www.forbes.com

 

[davek]

Dave, you literally posted stories from The S** political editor.

My conscience is crystal clear regarding that scum rag.

I suspect you feel pretty bad about it, so I will give you a pass, but you still havent said sorry and the whole forum saw it Dave, they ALL saw it.

So who do you want to win this 1 Dave, Biden or Trump?

I am...

anti-S*n
anti-Starmer
anti-Sunak
anti-Biden
anti-Trump


I hope that helps.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Bidens inaction on Gaza is, unfortunately, no where near as important as you think.

It could probably slot in behind

Immigration at the southern border
age
the economy
and maybe even Ukranian funding and the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Right now the polls are showing you who'll vote for Trump and Biden.
They're not showing you who'll vote against Trump or Biden.

Bingo

In fact, I'd venture a guess that of the 20 or so yanks on this thread, 75% of us are firmly in the vote "against" Trump camp rather than voting "for" Biden

And that's what it is in most of the country as well. Trump's only chance is some form of 1) disenfranchising voters in purple states or 2) people just not voting.

I am not there yet that there will be less turnout than 2020 b/c "liberals" are "too mad" at Biden

 

[Ruairi77]

"The Reuters/Ipsos poll shows the Israel-Hamas war is dividing Biden’s base, with 44% of registered Democratic voters saying they disapprove of his handling of the conflict—among those voters, 77% said they would vote for Biden".

What does that amount to - roughly 11% of registered Democratic voters not committing to voting for him?

Biden Vs. Trump 2024 Election Polls: Trump Leads By 2 Points, Latest Survey Shows

Trump and Biden remain virtually tied in many polls, but Biden is losing support among key demographics.

www.forbes.com

yes, exactly.
the poll is showing you a rough idea of voters that wont commit to voting for Biden.
It's not showing you if these same voters will vote to prevent Trump becoming POTUS.

I'm not for a minute saying he doesnt have a problem with Gaza.
I just find it a bit baffling how it's really not as prominent as it should be.

By far his biggest problem is the apathetic young vote and thats primarily because he's so old, he's completely unrelatable.

Getting off the fence when it comes to Gaza would definitely help with that.

 

[davek]

Bingo

In fact, I'd venture a guess that of the 20 or so yanks on this thread, 75% of us are firmly in the vote "against" Trump camp rather than voting "for" Biden

And that's what it is in most of the country as well. Trump's only chance is some form of 1) disenfranchising voters in purple states or 2) people just not voting.

I am not there yet that there will be less turnout than 2020 b/c "liberals" are "too mad" at Biden

6 or 7 states will determine this. You now that and you know that Biden is trailing in them atm.

 

[davek]

yes, exactly.
the poll is showing you a rough idea of voters that wont commit to voting for Biden.
It's not showing you if these same voters will vote to prevent Trump becoming POTUS.

I'm not for a minute saying he doesnt have a problem with Gaza.
I just find it a bit baffling how it's really not as prominent as it should be.

By far his biggest problem is the apathetic young vote and thats primarily because he's so old, he's completely unrelatable.

Getting off the fence when it comes to Gaza would definitely help with that.

It'll only take that amount of Democrats to stay at home to deny Biden victory in a handful of key battleground states.

 

[verreauxi]

This is a new poll. I haven't combed through it yet, but it looks at Biden with respect to Gaza in key swing states.

The Gaza Vote: YouGov-AJPaction Polls in 5 Battleground States

A new YouGov poll commissioned by AJP-Action shows one in five voters in five battleground states is less likely to vote for Joe Biden in November due to his handling of the war in Gaza. A permanent ceasefire, full humanitarian aid, and conditional military aid could secure a win in...

ajpaction.org

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

6 or 7 states will determine this. You now that and you know that Biden is trailing in them atm.

It's all about how the poll questions are worded.

The fact remains Trump has done nothing to get more people to vote for him. He has his base and that's it.

Biden's numbers are down b/c no one actually wants him to run. So as we get closer to November, people are either going to decide to not vote (which is childish) or vote against Trump by voting for Biden.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

This is a new poll. I haven't combed through it yet, but it looks at Biden with respect to Gaza in key swing states.

The Gaza Vote: YouGov-AJPaction Polls in 5 Battleground States

A new YouGov poll commissioned by AJP-Action shows one in five voters in five battleground states is less likely to vote for Joe Biden in November due to his handling of the war in Gaza. A permanent ceasefire, full humanitarian aid, and conditional military aid could secure a win in...

ajpaction.org

It's still mind boggling to me that Biden's handling of Gaza is a gamechanger for people when the other guy, by any objective measure, would be even more pro-Israel and anti-Muslim.

Make it make sense