Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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Pittsburgh Footy said:
We have a binary choice. Trump or Biden.

Not a perfect world scenario.

You've made comments in the past about "Biden getting what he deserves come November" and similar other points. When the reality is American politics, both left and right, have always been warmongering meddlers.

So warmongering really isn't a stick you can use to beat any American politician with. So I can only assume that using it to beat Biden must mean you think Trump and the GOP policymakers would be better than Biden. When by any objective measure, they'd bring much more anti-Muslim and pro-Israel. The GOP already would essentially let Putin walk into Ukraine.

So your logic on this topic makes zero sense to me
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My logic is simply this: if a Democratic president is punished with defeat for his support for genocidal forces elsewhere in the world then those who follow will register that and alter their behaviour. Then and only then might there be any choice between Democratic and Republican candidates.
 
Goat said:
Same.

But I also dont bury my head in the sand and realise that either Starmer/Sunak or Trump/Biden has to win.

You seem to live in this weird world in which you get to choose none of the above.
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What's weird about it? Do you think if you have a choice of two turd sandwiches you have to choose one?
 
davek said:
My logic is simply this: if a Democratic president is punished with defeat for his support for genocidal forces elsewhere in the world then those who follow will register that and alter their behaviour. Then and only then might there be any choice between Democratic and Republican candidates.
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No

Your logic is better to punish a Democratic president for "his support for genocide" and give the reigns to a lunatic that would actually perform genocide on his own people if he could get away with it. And then good luck getting him or his disciples out of office 4 years later

Straight up weird
 
Ruairi77 said:
I think you're confusing moderate independents with the brainwashed trump base.
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Historically, undecideds and loose partisans turn on convicted felons at the ballot box. Prior popularity, partisan lean of the district...none of that matters once convicted. Putting faith in the US justice system seems strange to me, but the voters in the center do when it comes to corrupt politicians. Perhaps it's more their faith in the FBI and DoJ.

Good news for Biden if Trump loses the verdict, but in this day and age any news only moves the needle a few points either way, max. The persuadable audience is high single digit percentage at best.
 
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