Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

I’ve agreed with a lot of stuff written over the last page or so and I’ve disagreed with a lot of it too. Really nice to see a such a frank and respectful exchange, no name calling and no ‘just asking questions’ edgelords.

 

[efcste97]

 

[TN Toffee]

So we have our October surprise. Despite claims to the contrary, Donald Trump kept in contact with pedophile pal Jeffrey Epstein while in the White House.

Would have been useful if the people in possession of the October surprise had dropped it a few weeks ago. You know…BEFORE nearly 70 million people had voted. I doubt they just came across these recordings yesterday.

 

[Eggs]

Would have been useful if the people in possession of the October surprise had dropped it a few weeks ago. You know…BEFORE nearly 70 million people had voted. I doubt they just came across these recordings yesterday.

….not sure anything would stop his supporters changing tack, he’s already a despicable man yet it doesn’t appear to deter the most powerful nation on the planet electing him. Saddens me that it’s as much a reflection of the electorate as it is the man. I’m convinced he wins.

 

[bluestevon]

….not sure anything would stop his supporters changing tack, he’s already a despicable man yet it doesn’t appear to deter the most powerful nation on the planet electing him. Saddens me that it’s as much a reflection of the electorate as it is the man. I’m convinced he wins.

Yeah I'm pretty sure he will do too.

Having no dog in the fight so to speak (neither choice overly will have an impact on me on any 'real' level, both will continue the one real policy that does effect me).

It's kind of a bit of a out of body experience watching everything unfold and the inevitable turmoil it will bring. Few times I've had adult students ask me literally what the hell is going on in the States in incredulity and my only honest answer is 'i have no idea its surreal'

On that note I can understand fully just why the guys/gals from the US are very heated up over this, because unlike me it actually will have a big impact on them.

We live in interesting if troubling times friend

 

[tantavisiteler]

Think Harris will win. My final prediction 4 days off.

 

[bluestevon]

Think Harris will win. My final prediction 4 days off.

My feeling it'll be trump is down to 'what would be the weirdest thing that could happen' - trump actually winning a second term after the last 6 years .... And currently we seem to be in the situation of whatever the weirdest thing is will be the thing that occurs

 

[tantavisiteler]

My feeling it'll be trump is down to 'what would be the weirdest thing that could happen' - trump actually winning a second term after the last 6 years .... And currently we seem to be in the situation of whatever the weirdest thing is will be the thing that occurs

not really mate. i know ur lot in Mosku would like it tho

 

[Prevenger17]

Think Harris will win. My final prediction 4 days off.

I thought she'd stomp him, but I think she'll only get a narrow margin of victory now

 

[bluestevon]

not really mate. i know ur lot in Mosku would like it tho

Not sure about that honestly, Trump if he's anything is highly unpredictable and prone to flip his opinion on a dime mate. Conversely Harris wil be predictable and a Trump loss will likely cause a huge fallout from him and his base.

As I said previously, I view it as having no dog in the fight, conversely when he ran against Clinton then yup everyone wanted a trump win in that one.

 

[TN Toffee]

….not sure anything would stop his supporters changing tack, he’s already a despicable man yet it doesn’t appear to deter the most powerful nation on the planet electing him. Saddens me that it’s as much a reflection of the electorate as it is the man. I’m convinced he wins.

I’m generally in agreement with this. It’s hard to imagine anyone still being on his side, seeing this, and FINALLY deciding they’re done with him. But, because of how close the swings states that will decide the election are, literally changing the minds of the right 50k people in a nation of 350M might actually swing it one way or another.

 

[bluestevon]

I’m generally in agreement with this. It’s hard to imagine anyone still being on his side, seeing this, and FINALLY deciding they’re done with him. But, because of how close the swings states that will decide the election are, literally changing the minds of the right 50k people in a nation of 350M might actually swing it one way or another.

Heard that said on a pod the other week and looked it up as sounded truly bizarre, but yeah it likely will be down to a very very small fraction of people in a few states

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Not a joke at all. For me the Russia-Ukraine war is basically a war between Lucifer and Satan.

I'm actually curious how people like @verreauxi are sucking Ukraine off on their bios. Unless he's somebody of Ukrainian origin or has links to Ukraine somehow, I find it embarrassing an American can go around acting so concerned for Ukraine.

Let's explain. Ukraine is not a bastion of democracy or human rights. It's essentially a fascist-like government that has suspended all elections, suspended opposition parties, stripped minorities of basic human rights, praises Nazis and Zelensky has even invited and honored an ACTUAL Nazi to the Canadian parliament. Not to mention, it's an extremely corrupt nation.

My issue with the matter is that, the Ukrainian struggle is being put ahead of Americans. Whether it's the abject response to the Hurricane or rising economic hardship, American lives are being put secondary to whatever the US needs to appease Ukraine. It's one thing defending nations like UK, France, Netherlands etc from a war; nations where we hold common values, allied for at least a century and nations that have contributed to America's journey to becoming the sole superpower of the world and it's a totally different thing for Americans to accept supporting a quasi-fascist state that only became an "ally" since 2014 that shares no common values with the West nor do the people of Ukraine.

Let’s be brutally frank here, the threat posed by Putin’s Russia to Europe and the world is not just a distant concern - it’s a stark reality that impacts us all. Dismissing the Russia-Ukraine war as irrelevant is a dangerous oversimplification. This isn’t just about Ukraine, it’s about the fundamental principles of sovereignty and democracy that underlie global stability.

Putin's regime is actively undermining democratic institutions worldwide, including in the US, where attempts to influence our elections and support divisive figures like Trump are ongoing. This isn’t a fringe issue, it’s a calculated strategy aimed at eroding trust in our democratic processes.

As for Ukraine’s government, while it’s not without flaws (no government is) your thinking overlooks the existential threat posed by Russian aggression. Yes, Ukraine has its challenges, but supporting it is about standing against a tyrant w ho seeks to expand his colonial empire, not about blindly endorsing every aspect of its governance. The choices we make today will resonate for generations. If we fail to stand with those fighting against oppression, we risk emboldening authoritarianism, not just in Europe but right here at home. And let us be clear that Putin has carefully nurtured and brought together a cabal of dictators who he wants to provide a new world order of fascist minded despots.

It should be clear to anyone who has even just a passing interest in world matters that our security and values are intertwined. Dismissing Ukraine's struggle means ignoring the broader implications for democracy everywhere. It’s well beyond time to recognise the gravity of the situation and understand that defending Ukraine is about defending ourselves and the principles we claim to uphold.

 

[tantavisiteler]

I thought she'd stomp him, but I think she'll only get a narrow margin of victory now

agreed

 

[bluestevon]

Let’s be brutally frank here, the threat posed by Putin’s Russia to Europe and the world is not just a distant concern - it’s a stark reality that impacts us all. Dismissing the Russia-Ukraine war as irrelevant is a dangerous oversimplification. This isn’t just about Ukraine, it’s about the fundamental principles of sovereignty and democracy that underlie global stability.

Putin's regime is actively undermining democratic institutions worldwide, including in the US, where attempts to influence our elections and support divisive figures like Trump are ongoing. This isn’t a fringe issue, it’s a calculated strategy aimed at eroding trust in our democratic processes.

As for Ukraine’s government, while it’s not without flaws (no government is) your thinking overlooks the existential threat posed by Russian aggression. Yes, Ukraine has its challenges, but supporting it is about standing against a tyrant w ho seeks to expand his colonial empire, not about blindly endorsing every aspect of its governance. The choices we make today will resonate for generations. If we fail to stand with those fighting against oppression, we risk emboldening authoritarianism, not just in Europe but right here at home. And let us be clear that Putin has carefully nurtured and brought together a cabal of dictators who he wants to provide a new world order of fascist minded despots.

It should be clear to anyone who has even just a passing interest in world matters that our security and values are intertwined. Dismissing Ukraine's struggle means ignoring the broader implications for democracy everywhere. It’s well beyond time to recognise the gravity of the situation and understand that defending Ukraine is about defending ourselves and the principles we claim to uphold.

Not gonna talk about any of what you've said mate, just one very simple question, have you ever been to either country?