Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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It's absurd to label anyone who disagrees with political views as a 'communist,' 'far-left,' or 'Antifa.' I was simply pointing out that there are many Republicans who are anti-Trump, and they're obviously far from being 'communists.'
yup I agree.
I just think the whole communist thing is insane.
People around here think anyone who thinks utility companies should be state owned to avoid profiteering and price gouging is a literal communist.
It's funny tho, the post office and public transit is so woefully underfunded that they are poor services. This means the public perception of state run entities is terrible. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
For another thread I guess
 
1000% yes, cut spending. Our overly bloated government wastes billions upon billions by negligence alone, never mind the funding that goes to things that should never have been funded in the first place.

As an accountant, I am all for finding ways to be more efficient with our spending - it is definitely a problem.

But the problem with how this is spoken about in our political landscape is that whenever the words "cut spending" are uttered, it's almost always with the context that Democrats spend a lot and waste taxpayer money

When Republicans waste billions of dollars as well, or said another way, it's a US government problem, agnostic of party affiliation. Just a quick look under the hood at our defense budget will show this.

It's an institutional problem
 
1000% yes, cut spending. Our overly bloated government wastes billions upon billions by negligence alone, never mind the funding that goes to things that should never have been funded in the first place.

Alright, now we get there and actually discuss something substantive!

Let's separate the two concepts:
(1) re negligence, fully agreed we need to eliminate it, so there's some savings,
(2) re things that shouldn't haven't been funded, what are three programs / concepts you would like to see eliminated / reduced?

I am sincere in this and heartened to see a glimmer of a hint of a shred of a policy discussion.

Yes, at heart I am a nerd.
 
yup I agree.
I just think the whole communist thing is insane.
People around here think anyone who thinks utility companies should be state owned to avoid profiteering and price gouging is a literal communist.
It's funny tho, the post office and public transit is so woefully underfunded that they are poor services. This means the public perception of state run entities is terrible. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
For another thread I guess
My favorite talking points are "gas prices high" and "eggs cost too much" is a Bidenomics problem like this isn't the free market economy at work. I guess in this sense, people all for state run companies.

Let's certainly not look at Exxon's profits over the last 4 years
 
Alright, now we get there and actually discuss something substantive!

Let's separate the two concepts:
(1) re negligence, fully agreed we need to eliminate it, so there's some savings,
(2) re things that shouldn't haven't been funded, what are three programs / concepts you would like to see eliminated / reduced?

I am sincere in this and heartened to see a glimmer of a hint of a shred of a policy discussion.

Yes, at heart I am a nerd.
This is a discussion for the General US Politics thread.

Not the 2024 POTUS election
 
Thanks for the moderation.

I agree it's better suited there, at the same time it came up here, so I will take it where I can.
Yeah, I just feel strongly that the POTUS election in today's political climate is a binary choice on bigger picture issues - completely agnostic to anything policy-related.

My dream is to somehow extricate ourselves from the grip of Trumpism and get back to having actual policy discussion.

Hopefully this can happen after 2024. But given the sea change in our politics since Trump's rise, I'm not so sure that can happen. And there are myriad reasons for that
 
1000% yes, cut spending. Our overly bloated government wastes billions upon billions by negligence alone, never mind the funding that goes to things that should never have been funded in the first place.

I think everyone wants to cut out government spending waste.
But look at the guy they quote
"In the federal government, everything is 'Go spend more money' and if that doesn't work, it's 'Go spend more money.'
That's pretty disingenuous.
There needs to be oversight.
At the moment theres a lot of 'Gov is overspending, lets cut SNAP and ignore the military'.
or Gov is overspending, lets cut spending on asylum seekers and spend way more building a wall with space lazers'.
Both parties overspend in government, the Republicans have just mastered the art of blaming the weakest members of society.
The first thing to do in order to spend wisely would be to ban lobbying, but that would be communist
 
I can't shake the feeling that he might win. While saying "millions" might be an exaggeration, there is definitely a sizable number of Republicans who aren't aligned with the MAGA movement, that's why you've got Harris basically making plays to try and win over GOP voters.
If a sizeable number of non-MAGA republicans do indeed vote for Harris, then this election isn't close

As long as GOP-led states and counties don't disenfranchise a material amount of votes
 
yup I agree.
I just think the whole communist thing is insane.
People around here think anyone who thinks utility companies should be state owned to avoid profiteering and price gouging is a literal communist.
It's funny tho, the post office and public transit is so woefully underfunded that they are poor services. This means the public perception of state run entities is terrible. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
For another thread I guess
100% agree, Private ownership and competition are upheld as the key drivers of efficiency, innovation, and economic growth. Anything that challenges this model is often dismissed as "communism" because it conflicts with the deeply ingrained concept of the "American Dream."
 
IF there are millions of Republicans against Trump then he can't win, surely?
Just like everything else about this election, it depends entirely where those people live. If they're more or less concentrated in the solidly blue states like CA and NY, and their switching sides only serves to pile on to what was already going to be Democratic landslides, then they don't make a ton of difference. If they're evenly dispersed, or located more heavily in the swing states, then Trump has a nearly impossible hill to climb without them.
 
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