Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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TheFinnFan said:
interesting times...
tax cutting is a bad thing.
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depends where it's cut.
cutting taxes for those stretched to the pin of their collar is not a bad thing.
cutting taxes for corporations and billionaires is a bad thing.

GW Bush crashed the economy in spectacular fashion by ignoring the subprime bubble.
It took Obama 8 years to right the ship, but right it he did.
He handed Trump a vibrant economy and Trump juiced it, cutting corporate rates and regulations.
To cover the shortfall, he ballooned the national debt. (even before covid)

He mismanaged covid and like Bush before him he handed his Democratic successor a basket case economy.
Biden has done remarkably well with the economy. The cost of repair was very high inflation.
Inflation, unemployment, GDP, the markets are all in good shape.

Maybe handing the reigns over to another Republican to drive it off a cliff again isn't the smartest.
 
TN Toffee said:
The other thing polls probably don’t do a good job of assessing is prospective turnout. I think it’s a pretty safe bet that, percentage wise, the under-40 vote is going to go OVERWHELMINGLY to Harris. But, turnout is going to make all the difference in the swing states where simply convincing a few thousand of those under 40’s to be bothered to go vote could actually decide the entire election.

That fact alone highlights the utter absurdity of the electoral college. An election where 150 million people will vote probably hinges almost entirely on getting several thousand extra people from a specific age group to cast ballots.
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I'd rather hope for a polling error. The 2020 election was the biggest one ever in turnout, making Biden the most voted for president. Don't think you can top that in this climate.

Also, I don't think those right wing polls are influencing much. 538 doesnt include the Rasmussen Polls, and weighs Trafalgar very lightly. Respected pollsters are all over the place and don't find a trend.
538 have it 55-45 in favour of Harris. Betting averages have are favouring Trump. This time last year, Biden was ahead 85-15.


It is what it is: a coin toss.
 
Ruairi77 said:
depends where it's cut.
cutting taxes for those stretched to the pin of their collar is not a bad thing.
cutting taxes for corporations and billionaires is a bad thing.

GW Bush crashed the economy in spectacular fashion by ignoring the subprime bubble.
It took Obama 8 years to right the ship, but right it he did.
He handed Trump a vibrant economy and Trump juiced it, cutting corporate rates and regulations.
To cover the shortfall, he ballooned the national debt. (even before covid)

He mismanaged covid and like Bush before him he handed his Democratic successor a basket case economy.
Biden has done remarkably well with the economy. The cost of repair was very high inflation.
Inflation, unemployment, GDP, the markets are all in good shape.

Maybe handing the reigns over to another Republican to drive it off a cliff again isn't the smartest.
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I can almost hear this post shooting above his head
 
The Fox interview and the analysis are leaning on "why 79% of America are unhappy" and the like. Feels like a tactical PR attack line. I'm sure some will take this as gospel and be inclined to follow the spin.
 
Just watched the Fox interview and unsurprisingly Bret Baier went after Kamala harder than he ever would Trump. It was actually pretty disgusting to watch as he just spoke over her constantly and any time Harris dealt with one of his gotcha questions he’s either moved on or just spoke over her.

Fair play to Kamala for doing it, think she did well given the circumstances. Trump would never do the equivalent.
 
Ruairi77 said:
depends where it's cut.
cutting taxes for those stretched to the pin of their collar is not a bad thing.
cutting taxes for corporations and billionaires is a bad thing.

GW Bush crashed the economy in spectacular fashion by ignoring the subprime bubble.
It took Obama 8 years to right the ship, but right it he did.
He handed Trump a vibrant economy and Trump juiced it, cutting corporate rates and regulations.
To cover the shortfall, he ballooned the national debt. (even before covid)

He mismanaged covid and like Bush before him he handed his Democratic successor a basket case economy.
Biden has done remarkably well with the economy. The cost of repair was very high inflation.
Inflation, unemployment, GDP, the markets are all in good shape.

Maybe handing the reigns over to another Republican to drive it off a cliff again isn't the smartest.
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Sounds incredibly similar to this Country.
 
TheFinnFan said:
Bret Baier interview with Harris was a bad one. Kamalas staff literally cut it short according to Baier.

like I said before Harris is awful when theres no teleprompter in sight and that she's damaging her own campaign more than his opponent.
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I don't even like Kamala but go and watch tonights Trumps town hall and then the Kamala interview b2b and try and tell me with a straight face that the Kamal interview was the trainwreck. One sounded like an adult, the other like some senile old crank.

Criticising her for being bad at public speaking is the oddest flex when Trump is objectively by every metric infinitely worse at public speaking.

Honestly id love to just sit down with someone like yourself and just watch both interviews back2back and then watch you actually try and make out Trump is more coherent, it would be an absolutely hilarious experience.
 
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