Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

[COYBL25]

Yes, what a brilliant strategy davek has decided for a demographic segment in the USA, a country of which he is not a citizen: Let's not vote in this election cycle so that we can endure 4 years of complete overt racism and xenophobia under Trump and his ilk, which might include deportations, and this will (...checks notes...) apparently make Muslim lives much better in 4 years time, a future time when Trump and his ilk have totally destroyed democracy, gerrymandered districts, empowered Netanyahu, etc., etc., so as to further secure their power in the USA and advance authoritarianism around the world and assuredly increase the suffering of Palestinians.

davek says all this because he really cares, it is assuredly not just performative keyboard histrionics--he really really cares, you can tell by how much careful thought and overall consideration he has put into his argument above. He is not just here to virtue-signal for attention, or to win an argument to feed his ego...rather he really really really cares. Just look at how much he cares about Palestine, about Ukraine, etc. etc

You forgot to mention, that the left will rise again

 

[davek]

Yes, what a brilliant strategy davek has decided for a demographic segment in the USA, a country of which he is not a citizen: Let's not vote in this election cycle so that we can endure 4 years of complete overt racism and xenophobia under Trump and his ilk, which might include deportations, and this will (...checks notes...) apparently make Muslim lives much better in 4 years time, a future time when Trump and his ilk have totally destroyed democracy, gerrymandered districts, empowered Netanyahu, etc., etc., so as to further secure their power in the USA and advance authoritarianism around the world and assuredly increase the suffering of Palestinians.

davek says all this because he really cares, it is assuredly not just performative keyboard histrionics--he really really cares, you can tell by how much careful thought and overall consideration he has put into his argument above. He is not just here to virtue-signal for attention, or to win an argument to feed his ego...rather he really really really cares. Just look at how much he cares about Palestine, about Ukraine, etc. etc.

I think you're the one being a bit hysterical, tbh.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

 

[Rita_Poon]

Bad faith, it's overflowing
And they're losing control
Oh the Nazism, they're supplying
It's Electrifying

Well you better shape up
'cos galloway's out
And my heart is set on you
Well you better shape up
You better understand
Keir is here, and he's got to be the man

etc

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Bad faith, it's overflowing
And they're losing control
Oh the Nazism, they're supplying
It's Electrifying

Well you better shape up
'cos galloway's out
And my heart is set on you
Well you better shape up
You better understand
Keir is here, and he's got to be the man

etc

 

[Ruairi77]

I think you're the one being a bit hysterical, tbh.

I dunno dave.
It's like you wander around the whole site looking for entertainment.
'Alright, I'm bored of telling Evertonians how bad the Freidkin group will be for the club, think I'll pop over and tell the Americans what they are doing wrong. A few google links should do the trick'.
I think you're in it for chaos. I dont think you're a wum but I'm also not sure you get the gravity of this.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Overly fair.

 

[carolinablue232]

The point is that it has little to zero credibility in persuading most American Muslim voters. That appears to be the case.

Fun fact. Most people don’t give two dookies about endorsements anyways. Well, maybe the Swifties do.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Fun fact. Most people don’t give two dookies about endorsements anyways. Well, maybe the Swifties do.

I think they were genuinely influential in our less polarized past and may still be for the small sliver of undecided voters in the same way a coin toss may be.

They possibly help in GOTV efforts or in downballot races where the candidates are less well known.

 

[LinekersLegs]

The old “Blue wall” states look more promising path given their slim polling lead than the sun belt for Harris is polling stays the same,

 

[wandyr79]

Yes, what a brilliant strategy davek has decided for a demographic segment in the USA, a country of which he is not a citizen: Let's not vote in this election cycle so that we can endure 4 years of complete overt racism and xenophobia under Trump and his ilk, which might include deportations, and this will (...checks notes...) apparently make Muslim lives much better in 4 years time, a future time when Trump and his ilk have totally destroyed democracy, gerrymandered districts, empowered Netanyahu, etc., etc., so as to further secure their power in the USA and advance authoritarianism around the world and assuredly increase the suffering of Palestinians.

davek says all this because he really cares, it is assuredly not just performative keyboard histrionics--he really really cares, you can tell by how much careful thought and overall consideration he has put into his argument above. He is not just here to virtue-signal for attention, or to win an argument to feed his ego...rather he really really really cares. Just look at how much he cares about Palestine, about Ukraine, etc. etc.

Was just about to post a similar response but I doubt I could have put it better than this.

Short term pain for long term gain, at best, a stupidly thought out statement given the danger that the stain on humanity poses.

 

[davek]

Was just about to post a similar response but I doubt I could have put it better than this.

Short term pain for long term gain, at best, a stupidly thought out statement given the danger that the stain on humanity poses.

For people who live their lives in the political bubble of the US then all the Project 2025 stuff looks like an existential threat.

But when you dont live there you have a different perspective; yes you can see the danger he and his conservative-loaded Supreme Court poses to progressive laws that have been passed; but from a global perspective the world has seen one term of Trumpism already and there was a marked difference in the willingness of Trump to become embroiled in foreign policy adventures. So although he comes across as a loose cannon and unfit for office, he doesn't come across as the existential threat he does to liberal-minded Americans. (To the non-American western elite he may be seen as a danger to NATO and being soft on the 'axis of evil' Russia-China, but to most ordinary/normal people that doesn't even register for them.)

In short, the thread is dominated by the concerns of liberal Americans, so that anyone outside of that cohort projecting ahead to the 2028 election for POTUS - beyond a second Trump presidency if it's to be that - looks fanciful, such is the level of fear about the abyss the US faces with Trump II.

 

[bicycleheader]

For people who live their lives in the political bubble of the US then all the Project 2025 stuff looks like an existential threat.

But when you dont live there you have a different perspective; yes you can see the danger he and his conservative-loaded Supreme Court poses to progressive laws that have been passed; but from a global perspective the world has seen one term of Trumpism already and there was a marked difference in the willingness of Trump to become embroiled in foreign policy adventures. So although he comes across as a loose cannon and unfit for office, he doesn't come across as the existential threat he does to liberal-minded Americans. (To the non-American western elite he may be seen as a danger to NATO and being soft on the 'axis of evil' Russia-China, but to most ordinary/normal people that doesn't even register for them.)

In short, the thread is dominated by the concerns of liberal Americans, so that anyone outside of that cohort projecting ahead to the 2028 election for POTUS - beyond a second Trump presidency if it's to be that - looks fanciful, such is the level of fear about the abyss the US faces with Trump II.

That 2nd para reads like a very wordy version of a MAGA tweet I’ve probably seen hundreds of times since 2016

 

[Prevenger17]

For people who live their lives in the political bubble of the US then all the Project 2025 stuff looks like an existential threat.

But when you dont live there you have a different perspective; yes you can see the danger he and his conservative-loaded Supreme Court poses to progressive laws that have been passed; but from a global perspective the world has seen one term of Trumpism already and there was a marked difference in the willingness of Trump to become embroiled in foreign policy adventures. So although he comes across as a loose cannon and unfit for office, he doesn't come across as the existential threat he does to liberal-minded Americans. (To the non-American western elite he may be seen as a danger to NATO and being soft on the 'axis of evil' Russia-China, but to most ordinary/normal people that doesn't even register for them.)

In short, the thread is dominated by the concerns of liberal Americans, so that anyone outside of that cohort projecting ahead to the 2028 election for POTUS - beyond a second Trump presidency if it's to be that - looks fanciful, such is the level of fear about the abyss the US faces with Trump II.

How much is Putin paying you Dave? I'll double it

 

[wandyr79]

For people who live their lives in the political bubble of the US then all the Project 2025 stuff looks like an existential threat.

But when you dont live there you have a different perspective; yes you can see the danger he and his conservative-loaded Supreme Court poses to progressive laws that have been passed; but from a global perspective the world has seen one term of Trumpism already and there was a marked difference in the willingness of Trump to become embroiled in foreign policy adventures. So although he comes across as a loose cannon and unfit for office, he doesn't come across as the existential threat he does to liberal-minded Americans. (To the non-American western elite he may be seen as a danger to NATO and being soft on the 'axis of evil' Russia-China, but to most ordinary/normal people that doesn't even register for them.)

In short, the thread is dominated by the concerns of liberal Americans, so that anyone outside of that cohort projecting ahead to the 2028 election for POTUS - beyond a second Trump presidency if it's to be that - looks fanciful, such is the level of fear about the abyss the US faces with Trump II.

Word salad comes to mind, unless I am being thick, which is always a possibility

Is it ever a good idea to have a racist sex offender felon stain on humanity with that much power?

Threats like the ones that have been thrown about should always be treated as real and, although I am technically outside looking in, I am married to an American and my new family has been directly threatened by Trumps rhetoric. That for me is enough to say that this stain should be nowhere near the Whitehouse, not even as a tourist. He should not even be tasting freedom right now.