Hear, hear.
Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race
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I just got numbers from the private fundraiser held afterward. Attendees donated over $1M, the largest haul for a political fundraising event in the city's history.
tantavisiteler
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Now I reckon Harris edges it, Trump lost the plot lately
davek
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The under-estimation of Trump support in battleground states could prove disastrous for Harris with such slight leads in the northern battleground states and small deficits in the southern battleground states.
US GE polling have consistently underestimated Trump and he usually unexpectedly surges.
This race remains on a knife edge. And I really do still wonder that rather than race being an issue not to vote for Harris that her gender might still be an issue...incredibly so given the number of women leaders around the world who have presided over some of the largest democracies.
Gender stereotypes played a role in Clinton's loss in 2016 and the possibility is that the undecideds will swing to Trump on that basis this time around too.
US GE polling have consistently underestimated Trump and he usually unexpectedly surges.
This race remains on a knife edge. And I really do still wonder that rather than race being an issue not to vote for Harris that her gender might still be an issue...incredibly so given the number of women leaders around the world who have presided over some of the largest democracies.
Gender stereotypes played a role in Clinton's loss in 2016 and the possibility is that the undecideds will swing to Trump on that basis this time around too.
who's underestimating Trump support in battleground states?
And yes, race and sex will come in to it.
But Harris is a good candidate and will have learned from Clintons mistakes
I have seen enough comments about the importance of getting out and voting to say that there is no underestimating anything.
I spent Monday evening with a group of friends writing postcards to voters in swing states encouraging them to vote.
Not a single one of the attendees was underestimating Trump’s support or that race/gender could play an important part or thought it was anything but a close race - hence spending the evening writing the postcards.
And the Harris campaign seems pretty aware of the issues too - is there something you think they should be doing that they aren’t?
davek
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No, I wasn't addressing the campaign. I was reacting to the wealth of material on here that points to 'this poll lead and that poll lead'. To read all of them you'd think the election was in the bag.
This isn't me having a go at you and @RAFUH btw. I can see how much the election domestically means to you both and I completely get why.
Just saying that any premature cartwheels on the basis of polls is misguided.
No, I wasn't addressing the campaign. I was reacting to the wealth of material on here that points to 'this poll lead and that poll lead'. To read all of them you'd think the election was in the bag.
This isn't me having a go at you and @RAFUH btw. I can see how much the election domestically means to you both and I completely get why.
Just saying that any premature cartwheels on the basis of polls is misguided.
Personally haven’t seen a cartwheel from anyone on here that regularly follows US politics on here or irl.
It’s sadly very close due to the electoral college. Turn out in the swings states will decide it.
davek
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Yes. And I think I'd be trepidatious given that in the last two GE's there's a been a late plumping by 'dont knows' for Trump.
no ones doing bloody cartwheels dave. more like bricking it.No, I wasn't addressing the campaign. I was reacting to the wealth of material on here that points to 'this poll lead and that poll lead'. To read all of them you'd think the election was in the bag.
This isn't me having a go at you and @RAFUH btw. I can see how much the election domestically means to you both and I completely get why.
Just saying that any premature cartwheels on the basis of polls is misguided.
To be honest. I think there are veeeery few out there who arent sure whether they'll vote for Harris or Trump.
The key is turn out.
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