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Well candidates are dropping out the race just to switch support from themselves to Joe biden. All in a bid to make sure Bernie Sanders doesn't win the candidacy.

I'm not just pulling this out of thin air. I've been reading about it quite a bit and enjoy watching a guy who I highly recommend actually. His channel is anomoly , but spelled with random capital letters. Very intelligent and balanced individual.

Either way trying to draw support from one to another is just damaging the candidate who actually does win.
There's definitely a case for Sanders. What he's done is remarkable.
But at the end of the day, Biden managed to get endorsements from the other major candidates where as Sanders couldn't get the other progressives, Warren, Yang, Inslee and Steyer.
Why is that? you could say it's because he's being stabbed in the back but I think it's because he's made his name as a political outsider and it's tough to build coalitions when you take that stance.
 
From what I have been following.

It's a shame that the democrats have spent 4 years trying to pointlessly get rid of the president rather than offer a valid alternative to him to get behind.

More a shame they are actively back stabbing their candidates before they have been nominated to even have a chance of losing to trump and repeating the cycle.
Sanders had huge name recognition from his 2016 run and high fav numbers across most democratic voters . He had the largest war chest of any candidate other than Bloomberg and a devoted bunch of supporters who could help in get-out-the-vote operations.

If in those 4 years he couldn't translate all those assets into a coalition that could win the primary against an aging Biden who needed the 4th primary to even register a win then perhaps that has more to do with Sanders than the democrats.
 
and they are wrong, he is going to lose and is going to lose heavily. we will come back to these pages and say ''what if?..'' it is written in the stars already, a shame really, 8 years with Trump.
They might be wrong but they have a choice between Sanders and Biden and they think Biden is the safer choice.
Sanders wont turn out African Americans, independents or moderate republicans, Biden will.
Sanders is relying on a huge turn out and huge youth vote. He's not getting that. In fact his numbers are down on four years ago. In '16 he won Michigan and Missouri, watch what happens tonight.
 
There's definitely a case for Sanders. What he's done is remarkable.
But at the end of the day, Biden managed to get endorsements from the other major candidates where as Sanders couldn't get the other progressives, Warren, Yang, Inslee and Steyer.
Why is that? you could say it's because he's being stabbed in the back but I think it's because he's made his name as a political outsider and it's tough to build coalitions when you take that stance.
From what I understood Sanders was the one who people believed in hindsight would have won the presidency last time. So it is not really a surprise to see him popular this time.

There has been a massive divide in the party though. Ironically the one who didn't stand aside for biden lost on his own back , which proves money doesn't buy everything.

I don't claim to be an expert on all things politics. However I firmly believe that if the democrats had actually threw their weight behind one candidate a long time ago and made them oppose trump in the public eye , they would have actually stood a chance this time of winning.

Instead the republicans now have a barrell of ammunition to keep the votes that won last time and buy 4 more years.
 
From what I understood Sanders was the one who people believed in hindsight would have won the presidency last time. So it is not really a surprise to see him popular this time.

There has been a massive divide in the party though. Ironically the one who didn't stand aside for biden lost on his own back , which proves money doesn't buy everything.

I don't claim to be an expert on all things politics. However I firmly believe that if the democrats had actually threw their weight behind one candidate a long time ago and made them oppose trump in the public eye , they would have actually stood a chance this time of winning.

Instead the republicans now have a barrell of ammunition to keep the votes that won last time and buy 4 more years.
And yet all available data (And yes, obviously polls etc are not perfect, but it’s all anyone has at this point barring blind guesses) says that the candidate the voters seem so far to be favouring IS the one best placed to defeat Trump
 
Sanders had huge name recognition from his 2016 run and high fav numbers across most democratic voters . He had the largest war chest of any candidate other than Bloomberg and a devoted bunch of supporters who could help in get-out-the-vote operations.

If in those 4 years he couldn't translate all those assets into a coalition that could win the primary against an aging Biden who needed the 4th primary to even register a win then perhaps that has more to do with Sanders than the democrats.
I can only say about everything I've been following recently , from an outside perspective.

As per above, I genuinely believe if the democrats had backed one candidate over the 4 years they would be ready to win the election rather than fragment themselves months before trump wins again.

I get why they want to stop trump. I don't fully agree but I understand why they oppose him so strongly. From my perspective , it seems they have forgotten to unite to offer an alternative that will win over the voters .

Highly recommend giving anomoly a watch. An American who talks about all sorts of things including politics , with an unbias presentation of the information .

Can't link the channel so here is a video on the subject .

 
And yet all available data (And yes, obviously polls etc are not perfect, but it’s all anyone has at this point barring blind guesses) says that the candidate the voters seem so far to be favouring IS the one best placed to defeat Trump
Trump will win in November. He will win easily.

That's not coming from someone who claims to know every little detail , its obvious he has the momentum. If Clinton couldn't win with seemingly the entire country backing her then biden / Sanders ain't winning
 
Heard an interesting quote the other day.

“anyone who tells you they KNOW what will happen in the General, regardless of the nominee, is either a liar or a fool”

Don’t know what made me think of that.
so are not allowed to speculate? might as well lock the thread then for eight months
 
I can only say about everything I've been following recently , from an outside perspective.

As per above, I genuinely believe if the democrats had backed one candidate over the 4 years they would be ready to win the election rather than fragment themselves months before trump wins again.

I get why they want to stop trump. I don't fully agree but I understand why they oppose him so strongly. From my perspective , it seems they have forgotten to unite to offer an alternative that will win over the voters .

Highly recommend giving anomoly a watch. An American who talks about all sorts of things including politics , with an unbias presentation of the information .

Can't link the channel so here is a video on the subject .


But why should Sanders be given that support off the bat rather than earning it by showing he can win the nomination? We all know the weaknesses of Biden so shouldn't it be straight forward for Bernie to win in a head-to-head with him? Clinton thought she had the nomination sown up in 2008 and most of the "establishment" agreed yet Obama managed to build a coalition that meant he won more delegates despite having far less money/name recognition at the start.
 
From what I understood Sanders was the one who people believed in hindsight would have won the presidency last time. So it is not really a surprise to see him popular this time.

There has been a massive divide in the party though. Ironically the one who didn't stand aside for biden lost on his own back , which proves money doesn't buy everything.

I don't claim to be an expert on all things politics. However I firmly believe that if the democrats had actually threw their weight behind one candidate a long time ago and made them oppose trump in the public eye , they would have actually stood a chance this time of winning.

Instead the republicans now have a barrell of ammunition to keep the votes that won last time and buy 4 more years.
I voted for Sanders in the '16 primary and thought/still think he would have done better than Clinton.
I think the main reason for this was that he managed to get serious momentum last time round. He galvanized the youth vote, the college campus vote.
He still has most of those voters but they are 4 years older and he hasn't managed to fill in the support of the voters who are coming up behind.
It was why, at the start of this race, I thought he had no chance because the 'buzz' was noticeably missing. Many young people are sick of old screaming white guys (I'm not making a judgement on whether this is fair or unfair). He got AOC on board and began to generate a bit of momentum but it was never anything like '16.
In the last 4 years, groups like our revolution have done great work but usually outside the party system, he wasted 4 years where he could have been building a viable platform and now people are shocked when he cant rack up democratic endorsements.
Put simply, his failure to beat a 78 year old Grandpa Simpson version of Joe Biden lies squarely on his shoulders.

As for Bidens chances against Trump. I think they are very good.
The more he goes around calling out BS like he did this morning, the more votes he'll win.
 
What’s that referring to, out of curiosity?
He was on the factory floor of one of the big auto plants in Michigan and some worker accused him of wanting to do away with the second amendment. He told the fella he was full of bull s...
Initially the reception was Biden's losing it but it seems to be turning to 'about time someone called 2A nuts out'.
 
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