Current Affairs 2020 Democratic Primary

[Everton1990]

And thereby proving the hypothesis that it has nothing to do with policy or beliefs, but simply a cult of personality, and how dare you not agree with us - here, burn it all down!

Unless you can highlight why voting for someone whose policy aims are the absolute polar opposite to Sanders’ makes more sense thanvoting for someone who is just less left?

don't come crying when Trump2020 wins vs biden my response will be I told you so and I won't feel bad for the democrats either because trust me they will be crying . they had 4 years to fix the mistake they made in 2016 yet they wanna do it all over again. thankgod I live north in Canada.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Oh jesus wept. You know when that statement was from? 1974.

"government doesn’t have a right to tell other people that women, they can’t control their body,” from 2012

I wonder which of those is more relevant?

Funny enough, one of them seems to be getting much more publicity on twitter.

I hear you. It's almost as if people can never change. Or learn

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

it’s stating that Biden is an eel that will flip on something as major as that and Bernie is the real deal who truly believes in women’s rights all his political career. But I suppose Biden was a young naive 34 year old. Not relevant.

People change all the time. Who knows the context of Biden's comment then. Let's say he was a Pro-Lifer and wanted that for everyone at the time. It's all irrelevant. Perhaps he's learned something over the years. I just find things dug up from before I was born as nonsensical in a political landscape.

Next you'll be telling me about Southern Dixiecrats and that the GOP is the party of Lincoln and freed the slaves

 

[Ruairi77]

don't come crying when Trump2020 wins vs biden my response will be I told you so and I won't feel bad for the democrats either because trust me they will be crying . they had 4 years to fix the mistake they made in 2016 yet they wanna do it all over again. thankgod I live north in Canada.

what are you talking about. They swept the house in '18 with mostly Biden backed moderates. There's also a great young progressive movement with the likes of AOC and Presley.
The party will work hard to unite around the eventual nomination and then work to elect down ballot to try and flip the senate.
It's messy now because that's they way the media want it but there'll be about 5 months to regroup and mobilize.

 

[Death]

Let’s keep it real I completely disagree with Biden he’s ultra right wing almost on my personal spectrum on what I believe but take that all away and forget if I think he would be good for your country; Trump would absolutely bum Biden smithereens in debates. He is losing his marbles and Trump will not hold back. He is forgetting and saying mad weird random stuff when not even under pressure. It would be extremely uncomfortable watching.

 

[Everton1990]

what are you talking about. They swept the house in '18 with mostly Biden backed moderates. There's also a great young progressive movement with the likes of AOC and Presley.
The party will work hard to unite around the eventual nomination and then work to elect down ballot to try and flip the senate.
It's messy now because that's they way the media want it but there'll be about 5 months to regroup and mobilize.

we will see i will support biden winning vs trump but i just can't see it.. he makes 2 many gaffs.. AOC is with sanders she wont come around to help biden until the end she doesnt like the establishment at all lol.

 

[Death]

People change all the time. Who knows the context of Biden's comment then. Let's say he was a Pro-Lifer and wanted that for everyone at the time. It's all irrelevant. Perhaps he's learned something over the years. I just find things dug up from before I was born as nonsensical in a political landscape.

Next you'll be telling me about Southern Dixiecrats and that the GOP is the party of Lincoln and freed the slaves

I am not exactly saying that he is a liar and is masking what he truly believes. But I’m comparing him to Bernie who holds these progressive believes his entire adult life considering he’s old AF is impressive. I think I know who I’d prefer on the issue anyway.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

don't come crying when Trump2020 wins vs biden my response will be I told you so and I won't feel bad for the democrats either because trust me they will be crying . they had 4 years to fix the mistake they made in 2016 yet they wanna do it all over again. thankgod I live north in Canada.

Again, for the 98th (99th? 3000th?) time, I LIKE BERNIE SANDERS! I LIKE (most of) BERNIE SANDERS’ POLICIES! I’D PREFER HIM TO BIDEN AS PRESIDENT (if I could just click my fingers and put one of them in. Though neither is my 1st choice. Bernie is (probably) my 2nd

I just can’t stand a non-insignificant portion of his Trump-esque supporters.

Thanks for spelling it out even more clearly than most.

 

[SteveSC]

and people like you are the reason why some sanders people will check trumps name off on the list in November 2020 . thanks bud.

People like me what does that even mean? I voted for Sanders so not sure what you mean? I was perfectly clear about that earlier. I also said I didnt and wouldn't vote for Biden.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Let’s keep it real I completely disagree with Biden he’s ultra right wing almost on my personal spectrum on what I believe but take that all away and forget if I think he would be good for your country; Trump would absolutely bum Biden smithereens in debates. He is losing his marbles and Trump will not hold back. He is forgetting and saying mad weird random stuff when not even under pressure. It would be extremely uncomfortable watching.

we will see i will support biden winning vs trump but i just can't see it.. he makes 2 many gaffs.. AOC is with sanders she wont come around to help biden until the end she doesnt like the establishment at all lol.

Ah yes, the old “Trump the master debater” theory.

Biden isn’t as sharp as he used to be (though the gaffes are pretty much baked into any perception of him) but he’s Einstein compared to Trump. For some reason though the media is willing to lower the bar for Trump far more than for ANY Democrat

 

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[BirkenheadBlue]

I also said I didnt and wouldn't vote for Biden.

To clarify, I assume that means in the Primary?

 

[SteveSC]

To clarify, I assume that means in the Primary?

Yes sorry I edited it and deleted that portion haha just noticed that now

 

[Death]

Ah yes, the old “Trump the master debater” theory.

Biden isn’t as sharp as he used to be (though the gaffes are pretty much baked into any perception of him) but he’s Einstein compared to Trump. For some reason though the media is willing to lower the bar for Trump far more than for ANY Democrat

I consider Hillary a highly intelligent person and has her wits about her more and way more than Trump. But he still blew her out of the water in the debates with big moments. You’ll probably disagree but I don’t think a lot the public would. I know Biden has more knowledge than Trump but I can see Trump dragging him into the dirt and beating him on XP. And that’sbefore I remention the insane gaffes.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

A fine question from Bernie.

He must be gutted that (according to the venerable @Everton1990) a load of his supporters are going to go and vote for a guy who is in court right now trying to take healthcare away from 20m people if the country DARES to nominate someone other than him