Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[Eggs]

Really important to keep in mind how utterly disastrous <230 seats is for Labour and that massive, massive decisions will need to be made in the next weeks if that's how it turns out. If the Michael Foot 1983 vote is no longer the 'floor' (labour getting less that 209) - well, Labour didn't get back into power for 14 years after that. That's potentially 20 years of Tory rule if replicated.

It's going to be very, very rough.

..it's what I expected when the election was announced. I fear Corbyn will go and be replaced by another, younger Corbynist. It could actually have been worst if Corbyn did better than expected. If the poll is true, I expect the next election in 5 years time to be the earliest that a much needed root and branch change will take place in the party's governance, particularly how they elect their leader.

The alternative is that a breakaway party will be formed away from the Momentum influence. Saying that, the poll might be wrong.

 

[hullefc]

DID SOMEBODY SAY VOID ELECTION?

Me.

1500 gone missing in Plymouth with 2 marginal Tory seats.

 

[orly]

..it's what I expected when the election was announced. I fear Corbyn will go and be replaced by another, younger Corbynist. It could actually have been worst if Corbyn did better than expected. If the poll is true, I expect the next election in 5 years time to be the earliest that a much needed root and branch change will take place in the party's governance, particularly how they elect their leader.

The alternative is that a breakaway party will be formed away from the Momentum influence. Saying that, the poll might be wrong.

For the sake of having a balanced, non-stagnant democracy mate, it needs to be. Even though it wasn't what the exit polls predicted, 1992 was 336-271 Conservative. Less than 200 here and essentially, you have non-opposition for the next cycle.

 

[roydo]

The alternative is that a breakaway party will be formed away from the Momentum influence. Saying that, the poll might be wrong.

Cant recall the song, but "History repeats itself again"

Will be lost on some younger viewers, but you will know.

 

[ashwuk76]

Spending per capita on welfare.

As I've said many times, I'm not voting for them as I disagree wholeheartedly with Brexit, but some of the hysteria people come out with is ridiculous.

Shame about those people killing themselves though eh? Or are you saying that's a myth and hysteria too? Unbelievable.

 

[tsubaki]

Really important to keep in mind how utterly disastrous <230 seats is for Labour and that massive, massive decisions will need to be made in the next weeks if that's how it turns out. If the Michael Foot 1983 vote is no longer the 'floor' - well, Labour didn't get back into power for 14 years after that. That's potentially 20 years of Tory rule if replicated.

It's going to be very, very rough.

That is simply not correct, though.

For a start, in 1983 they got 209 seats, so that is the floor not <230 as you insist. Of course, that result is even worse than it seems because that was with Scotland as a relatively reliable source of seats (they got 41 Scottish MPs in 83), so to be a true comparative to now Corbyn would have to get 178. Thirdly, one of the few things that the polls agreed on in the election was that the Tory win would be down to the collapse in the UKIP vote, which of course built up over the past fifteen years as Tories shunned Cameron and Labour shunned Blair / Brown / Miliband and which has gone away at this election. Finally, there

If Corbyn gets less than 30% of the vote he is finished. 30-35% is debateable, 35% or more (which would be the best result for Labour since 2001) and he is going to be stronger than he is now.

 

[jaycee]

Shame about those people killing themselves though eh? Or are you saying that's a myth and hysteria too? Unbelievable.

Its only around 90 people a month,drop in the ocean

 

[Donald Twain]

Southall going into overdrive with the anti Tory tweets ! Is right , proper Everton him !

 

[orly]

That is simply not correct, though.

For a start, in 1983 they got 209 seats, so that is the floor not <230 as you insist. Of course, that result is even worse than it seems because that was with Scotland as a relatively reliable source of seats (they got 41 Scottish MPs in 83), so to be a true comparative to now Corbyn would have to get 178. Thirdly, one of the few things that the polls agreed on in the election was that the Tory win would be down to the collapse in the UKIP vote, which of course built up over the past fifteen years as Tories shunned Cameron and Labour shunned Blair / Brown / Miliband and which has gone away at this election. Finally, there

If Corbyn gets less than 30% of the vote he is finished. 30-35% is debateable, 35% or more (which would be the best result for Labour since 2001) and he is going to be stronger than he is now.

Read it again mate, I clarified it while you were typing out this tripe.

 

[ashwuk76]

Its only around 90 people a month,drop in the ocean

Acceptable losses?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Shame about those people killing themselves though eh? Or are you saying that's a myth and hysteria too? Unbelievable.

So how many people were doing so when government funding was significantly less?

 

[Eggs]

For the sake of having a balanced, non-stagnant democracy mate, it needs to be. Even though it wasn't what the exit polls predicted, 1992 was 336-271 Conservative. Less than 200 here and essentially, you have non-opposition for the next cycle.

..I agree, it's a situation nobody wants regardless of what colour you are. Saying that, the opposition has been sadly impotent for a while.

 

[Donald Twain]

Its only around 90 people a month,drop in the ocean

Mate there's been about 4 in the last month in Huyton alone!

 

[Mrk]

We're entering the most entertaining part of election day, where people go to vote and convince themselves that the demographic they see in the polling booth means it's "Looking good for us".

 

[ashwuk76]

So how many people were doing so when government funding was significantly less?

It's not about funding it's as a direct result of the bedroom tax and this stupid back to work rubbish. But yes mate you harp on about how much is spent while people kill themselves.

Btw I did note you didn't deny it.