Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[bring the ghost on]

Both. They are appealing to different audiences, so they are effective in different ways.

Well, we're not going to agree, but I struggle to believe that you genuinely think left-wing print media (Stewart Lee articles, to cite your example) is as effective in influencing election results as sensationalist headlines in the S*n and Daily Mail.

But the common theme is that they are appealing to a pre-set audience - 99% of people who read or view said material already have their views defined to such a degree that they want to read the editorial spin that paper has in the first place. Otherwise they would not be there.

Again, I can't agree with you here. People do choose their newspapers based on what they want to read and how it backs up their own views, but you're granting a lot of people with too much political persuasion if you think that they have made their minds up on which way to vote before they are bombarded with the nonsense they get shoved down their throats when they read the average red-top.

Do you think that when Murdoch backed Labour in 1997, they lost a lot of readers? No. It is the newspapers, rather than the consumers, who are the trendsetters.

 

[peteblue]

there is only ONE option for former UKIP voters. and thats to go tory to see the brexit deal thro as you say.

this is why the election has been called now, whilst they are in such a dominant position.

If I were May, I'd approach Farage to stand as a Conservative MP and the 4M would be in the bag.......

 

[Seanjd]

They do. Whether consciously or sub-consciously, they do. They choose to read that paper because they enjoy reading that paper and what is in it. Therefore, the newspaper reflects their beliefs.

If The Daily Mail suddenly went hard left tomorrow and hailed Corbyn as a hero etc. etc. then their readers would abandon ship, because it is no longer the same paper in tone and content that they enjoyed.

A newspaper is a product, pure and simple.

I think it goes hand in hand, and would be more inclined to say that the readers reflect the newspaper's beliefs, rather than the their way around.

An example of this is the way the right wing press associate Corbyn with communism/Lenin/anti-British etc. This isn't true, and it isn't factual, however people believe it to be the case. It is only reflected in people's beliefs because it has been invented by the right wing media. In fact, this table shows that the right wing media are pretty much the only publications who have pushed that agenda.

And so, it is the newspaper's informing their readers' views, not the newspaper's seeking to reflect their readership.

 

[swisso]

I'm loathe to quote Piers Morgan on Jeremy Corbyn, but on this occasion it's useful!

"He’s the guy who sits in the corner of the local pub moaning about everything the landlord does, then finally gets to run it himself only to prove he can barely pull a pint."

 

[Tubey]

I think it goes hand in hand, and would be more inclined to say that the readers reflect the newspaper's beliefs, rather than the their way around.

An example of this is the way the right wing press associate Corbyn with communism/Lenin/anti-British etc. This isn't true, and it isn't factual, however people believe it to be the case. It is only reflected in people's beliefs because it has been invented by the right wing media. In fact, this table shows that the right wing media are pretty much the only publications who have pushed that agenda.

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And so, it is the newspaper's informing their readers' views, not the newspaper's seeking to reflect their readership.

He is a Marxist though!

 

[Blue 1]

How's this transferring into seats though? Can the Lib Dems bounce anywhere down south to give the Tories a headache?

Clutching at straws I know.

Cornwall and most of Devon ought to be interesting.

 

[Seanjd]

I'm loathe to quote Piers Morgan on Jeremy Corbyn, but on this occasion it's useful!

"He’s the guy who sits in the corner of the local pub moaning about everything the landlord does, then finally gets to run it himself only to prove he can barely pull a pint."

How can he say that when he has no idea how he would run it? Even for that muppet, that's a poor analogy.

 

[orly]

How's this transferring into seats though? Can the Lib Dems bounce anywhere down south to give the Tories a headache?

Clutching at straws I know.

His absolutely prehistoric comments about gays tonight will have his campaign panicking for the rest of the week. Not helpful with so many fleeing Labour voters there for the taking

 

[dannyboy]

His absolutely prehistoric comments about gays tonight will have his campaign panicking for the rest of the week. Not helpful with so many fleeing Labour voters there for the taking

Saw him on Channel 4 news being questioned about that. Bizarre answer to give for a supposed liberal.

 

[dannyboy]

I'm loathe to quote Piers Morgan on Jeremy Corbyn, but on this occasion it's useful!

"He’s the guy who sits in the corner of the local pub moaning about everything the landlord does, then finally gets to run it himself only to prove he can barely pull a pint."

Best to stick with the NHS crisis and slashing of school budgets then...

 

[neil999]

His absolutely prehistoric comments about gays tonight will have his campaign panicking for the rest of the week. Not helpful with so many fleeing Labour voters there for the taking

Unbelievable that the two opposition parties have ended up with these leaders, imagine Ashdown or even clegg as lib dem leader and they would clean up...oh it's so awful

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

The one thing I absolutely can't stomach again this election is another post result melt down from outraged people who didn't actually vote. I'm sorry but if your so stupid that you didn't vote then you have zero right to complain. I have no problem with people who don't vote and don't complain but it irritates me beyond belief seeing false moral outrage from non voters sneering at people who actually got off their arses and voted against what these fools claim to support.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[Duncan Disordely]

 

[rascal]

I've taken a leaf out of May's book on Brexit, and I'd just like to say that I'm going to make a success of my relationship with Charlize Theron. I have no sound strategy for achieving this aim, but if I say it often enough those people who are intellectual challenged will believe me.