Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[JonS]

The Tories are all over the shop. Announce a budget with taxing the self employed only to reverse it. May said there was no need for an election but changes her mind. You just couldn't make up such indecisiveness. May has been told that the complete mess they are in over leaving the EU they wouldn't stand a chance getting elected in 2020 due to the disastrous fallout from their 'negotiating tactics' over leaving the EU.

With the EU the Tories have done their usual tricks, attempt to intimidate, shout and bully to get their way. But it isn't working. It is a complete mess and they are being made to look weaker and weaker with every passing day. With the consequence that they will have to give in and give in even more which will make them look even weaker which will highlight the divisions in the Tory party even more.

The blustering and bumbling May, Davis, Johnson etc. have been exposed as being so incompetent that the Tory 'Grandees' have told May that she wouldn't get elected in 2020, so cut and run and call an election now to save the Tory bacon. And hope that they can salvage something from the Brexit fallout that is looking increasingly bad. The divisions in the country are all to evident and obvious that when May claimed that the, 'country was pulling together' that was the final straw that broke the Tory 'Grandees' back and made her look a laughing stock.

That post is more effective at demolishing the Tories than most of what Labour are saying!

@hullefc for Labour leader

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Think the biggest problem for Labour is trying to get the election all about the NHS, the economy etc, if it's all about Brexit (and obviously it will be) they will be knackered because they are all over the gaff.

 

[hullefc]

That post is more effective at demolishing the Tories than most of what Labour are saying!

@hullefc for Labour leader

Oh dear, how can I refuse such an endorsement. But my secretary informs me that my diary is full until July 21st, when schools out for summer.

 

[Moomin]

Think the biggest problem for Labour is trying to get the election all about the NHS, the economy etc, if it's all about Brexit (and obviously it will be) they will be knackered because they are all over the gaff.

The media control how it will be campaigned on and Brexit will be at the forefront of many papers.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08mb5r1#play from 2:10 onwards. Poor from May.

 

[ClausThomsen]

I still don't understand why, some form of politics (and Economics if I think about it) isn't taught to a decent level, from an early age? Surely then, people are in a better shape to make decisions on their own judgement, rather than what is fed to them?

I think you just answered your own question. Educating the masses to exercise judgement and question what they are told would have a devastating impact on the status-quo.

 

[JonS]

I think you just answered your own question. Educating the masses to exercise judgement and question what they are told would have a devastating impact on the status-quo.

Better to keep them occupied with cheap alcohol and betting shops...

 

[orchard]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08mb5r1#play from 2:10 onwards. Poor from May.

I'm not sure what you expected, she IS poor. Surprised she was exposed as she was by a bbc interviewer though, but he did hold back a bit.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Why hasn't Labour already pointed out that May's justification of this snap election is due to the supposed 'saboteurs' to democracy over Brexit being within her own party ffs?

As they have an overall majority, so they can pass through whatever they like when it comes to Brexit. unless a section of the their own party vote against.

So the entire premise for this election is by definition due to division within May's own ranks.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

@neil999 make this a public vote so we can out the disgusting tory vermin on here

This type of attacking those who disagree with you won't help win them over. And we'll need to win them over for Labour to stand any chance of winning not just in this GE but in all future ones to. We need more dialogue when it comes to politics because it's the only way to really change people's minds. Just attacking them only ensures they simply keep quiet about who they vote for but that they will still vote the same way.

 

[orly]

Another day closer til Corbyn leaves and we get a proper Labour party


hooray

 

[Liam-EFC]

The only realistic chance to oust the Tories from office would be an electoral pact of the centre left between Labour, Liberal Democrats and the Green Party. They should try anything to stop a Tory landslide otherwise we'd probably be stuck with Tories for the next 10/15 years, if they end up with a 100+ seat majority.

 

[flibbyflob]

Another day closer til Corbyn leaves and we get a proper Labour party


hooray

What if he doesn't leave?

 

[Mrk]

The only realistic chance to oust the Tories from office would be an electoral pact of the centre left between Labour, Liberal Democrats and the Green Party. They should try anything to stop a Tory landslide otherwise we'd probably be stuck with Tories for the next 10/15 years, if they end up with a 100+ seat majority.

Even that wouldn't be enough, the numbers don't add up. And even so, it would never happen anyway. There's a lot of bad blood between Labour and the Greens and the Lib Dems wouldn't be seen dead in a pact with Corbyn, who has never been particularly pro-EU.

 

[flibbyflob]

The only realistic chance to oust the Tories from office would be an electoral pact of the centre left between Labour, Liberal Democrats and the Green Party. They should try anything to stop a Tory landslide otherwise we'd probably be stuck with Tories for the next 10/15 years, if they end up with a 100+ seat majority.

The only way it can work and get enough seats is if the SNP join the rest and seeing as they want an independence vote it is surely impossible for that to happen.