Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[The Cowboy]

I think this point of view represents the feelings of many. I haven't got a clue where to put my vote for the first time in my life, having been a lifelong labour voter. The one plus point will be the obliteration of Corbyn and his band of militants.

Vote for an independent then. Feel genuinely happy with your vote, rather then settling for the least worst.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Please tell me somebody who Labour's next leader should be to compete in the General election that who would stand a better chance then Corbyn because I really don't see anyone.

 

[Mrk]

Ok so Labour think Corbyn is a disaster and can never win an election. Fair enough if that's your point of view but I fail to see ANYONE else within the Labour party who's really all that much better. Teresa May is one of the weakest PM's ever and Labour have nobody who would stand a chance against her. Utterly terrible.

I'm not a huge fan, but how is she weak exactly? She's got personal and party poll ratings that many previous Prime Ministers would kill for. I don't find her a particularly interesting leader, but weak? Far from it.

 

[AndyC]

Ok so Labour think Corbyn is a disaster and can never win an election. Fair enough if that's your point of view but I fail to see ANYONE else within the Labour party who's really all that much better. Teresa May is one of the weakest PM's ever and Labour have nobody who would stand a chance against her. Utterly terrible.

That for me is the really despairing issue.
Labour hasn't got a standout candidate to challenge Corbyn.
And May knows this all too well and has taken the opportunity to potentially crush the Labour Party.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Please tell me somebody who Labour's next leader should be to compete in the General election that who would stand a better chance then Corbyn because I really don't see anyone.

They should have gone for Burnham when they had the chance

Now that ship has sailed, I couldn't tell you

Hopefully there's someone electable left over once Corbyn gets routed

 

[JonS]

Main stream media

Cheers. Agree with you

And it's amazing how much everyone laps up the anti Corbyn propaganda (not that I think he's doing a good job at getting his policies across) or thinks that the return if Blairite labour policies would make a big difference to peoples lives even if it did get Labour back in power

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I'm not a huge fan, but how is she weak exactly? She's got personal and party poll ratings that many previous Prime Ministers would kill for. I don't find her a particularly interesting leader, but weak? Far from it.

Please, a half competent opposition would slaughter her. Her poll ratings are high? These ratings mean nothing and have been proven so time and again. She's in an excellent position because she's currently in a one horse race against a Labour party more interested in their own interfering then taking on the opposition. She's appears strong by default. Nothing to do with her own leadership skills.

 

[tsubaki]

Sorry if the thoughts of myself and @Eggs in respect of the impending GE offend you, but where does it say that we're not allowed to change our minds?

Corbyn is an idealist - all very laudable I'll agree - but in my opinion, is not a strong enough character to lead a party into a GE.

I honestly do not know who could jump into the Labour leadership right now and stand a chance of beating the Tories given the lead they apparently have and are possibly likely to sustain.

I know I'm not alone in thinking the way I currently do, a friend of mine has been a life-long Labour party member and late last year resigned that membership due to a total lack of faith in Corbyn to be able to a. unite the party and b. win.

Of course you have the right to change your minds.

My point was that you, your mate, Eggs and I have voted for a party whose leader did what Blair did, and yet you, your mate and Eggs are now saying that because you think Corbyn can't win you won't vote for him. I do not see the logic in that, and TBH the sort of politician that arises as the result of that sort of thinking would probably be a bit terrifying.

 

[degsy]

That's the mistake you are making. He probably would make things better in the short term - but the debt he'd take on to do it would cripple everyone in the long term. He'd start heavily taxing business too, making the whole economy shrink, with the view of "robbing the rich to feed the poor". It's student union politics that doesn't work in the real world.

Not only that, as a Marxist, he's already shown a worrying inclination to close ranks and develop an inner-circle pseudo-dictatorship when under pressure.

He'd be a disaster.

Trouble is though Tubey, they're all 'kin disasters one way or another. My own personal feeling is that Corbyn is a bit 'wet' not your tory style wet obvs, just...searches for something bland, wishie-washy, pale, well meaning, political theorist, dreamer, but in the end ineffectual - can't find it - leftie tosser who never did a days work in his life...that last bit was just me though.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

They should have gone for Burnham when they had the chance

Now that ship has sailed, I couldn't tell you

Hopefully there's someone electable left over once Corbyn gets routed

I don't see Burnham as a strong enough opposition leader either. It's a sad fact that Labour have nobody credible enough to take on May let alone beat her.

 

[Duncan Disordely]

Keir Starmer has come a cross well for Labour, but his lack of experience as a politician would hold him back

 

[Mrk]

Please, a half competent opposition would slaughter her. Her poll ratings are high? These ratings mean nothing and have been proven so time and again. She's in an excellent position because she's currently in a one horse race against a Labour party more interested in their own interfering then taking on the opposition. She's appears strong by default. Nothing to do with her own leadership skills.

You've not explained why she's weak - you've just explained why you don't really rate her, which wasn't what I asked.

 

[COYBL25]

They should have gone for Burnham when they had the chance

Now that ship has sailed, I couldn't tell you

Hopefully there's someone electable left over once Corbyn gets routed

Burnham was astute enough to see what was coming and jumped ship.

He's turned out to be a bit of a snake, even if he is a blue !

 

[Moomin]

She has played the right move calling a snap election now. She knows these brexit negotations are not going to take 2 years but quite a bit longer.

2020 came around and general election while negotations are taking place, would have looked bad for her.

 

[tsubaki]

She has played the right move calling a snap election now. She knows these brexit negotations are not going to take 2 years but quite a bit longer.

2020 came around and general election while negotations are taking place, would have looked bad for her.

The negotiations would have ended in April 2019. This is about avoiding having to fight an election on the deal that she is likely to get, not avoiding fighting an election whilst negotiations were taking place.