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Marco Silva Sacked

Everton have sacked manager Marco Silva after a resounding 5-2 defeat by Liverpool at Anfield on Wednesday night saw Everton drop into the relegation zone of the Premier League with just 14 points from 15 games.

The defeat to Liverpool was Everton’s third successive defeat and eighth defeat in 11 games – with a run of eye-watering tough fixtures coming up, Marcel Brands and Farhad Moshiri decided to act.

The 42-year-old Portuguese, who guided Everton to eighth place in his first season in charge last term, paid the price for an atrocious start to the season, despite having spent over £100m in the summer on Alex Iwobi, Moise Kean, Jean-Philippe Gbamin, Andre Gomes, Fabian Delph and Djibril Sidibe (Loan Fee).

Marco Silva is the fourth manager to be sacked since majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri bought shares in Everton in February 2016, following Roberto Martinez, Ronald Koeman and Sam Allardyce out the door.

  1. [QUOTE=”Petit, post: 7466284, member: 16977″]
    Ok let’s sack him
    [/QUOTE]
    Not really an option given where we are and who that would leave in charge of making the decision on who the next manager is.

  2. [QUOTE=”Gaffa, post: 7468189, member: 33636″]
    Acted with class and dignity the whole way through and never once said a bad word about the club or fans

    We should all remember this
    [/QUOTE]

    I agree.

    We have players in this squad who have not collectively accepted the responsibility because mentally they are weak.

  3. Acted with class and dignity the whole way through and never once said a bad word about the club or fans

    We should all remember this

  4. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7467354, member: 52747″]
    I like listening to Pep talking about football and watching them take the RS to pieces… But it’s a bit sanitised and dull.
    [/QUOTE]
    Watch maradonna in Mexico. It’s brilliant

  5. [QUOTE=”Lelouch, post: 7465747, member: 49661″]
    Judging from the players comments Mina/Digne it gives the impression they really liked him yet we played absolute garbage football, Bit bizarre this.
    [/QUOTE]

    Maybe he was too nice?
    Managers/coaches have a tough job keeping their distance and not becoming ‘one of the lads’.
    The whole thing is a bit sad but for any number of reasons.
    What a mess.

    Rest assured that the esk is hammering out the 3 year plan right now.

  6. [QUOTE=”Death, post: 7465435, member: 43971″]
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    No getting away from the fact that the man loves the club however he knows less about what’s going on at Everton than I do and I don’t know anything.

  7. [QUOTE=”Agent Blue, post: 7467134, member: 43307″]
    We had tactics?
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    I did say HIS tactics.

  8. [QUOTE=”witchdoc187, post: 7467317, member: 1185″]
    Any good? I just watched Sunderland til I die and the maradonna in Mexico enjoyed both
    [/QUOTE]

    I like listening to Pep talking about football and watching them take the RS to pieces… But it’s a bit sanitised and dull.

  9. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7467108, member: 52747″]
    Just watching that City doc on Amazon for the first time and wondering “Can I see Marco Silva dancing on a treatment bench?”
    [/QUOTE]
    Any good? I just watched Sunderland til I die and the maradonna in Mexico enjoyed both

  10. [QUOTE=”Boss Silva, post: 7467260, member: 47539″]
    Marco Statement:

    It has been a real honour to have managed Everton for the past 18 months and I would like to thank Farhad Moshiri, Bill Kenwright, Denise Barrett-Baxendale, Keith Harris, Marcel Brands and the entire board for giving me the opportunity to be part of this special club.
    “Thank you to all of the Evertonian fans who always live and breathe the club and show such great passion.
    “A special thank you to all of the players, for their professionalism and the commitment they put into their work every day and to to the club staff who welcomed me to Finch Farm training ground and made me feel at home. All the best. COYB.”
    [/QUOTE]
    Why is he lying? The players displayed no form of committed in virtually any game at all! No wonder he got sacked if that’s what he believes.

  11. Close to being the worst Everton manager of my life time and definitely the most undeserving to ever get the job… obviously Mike Walker was worse.

  12. [QUOTE=”Boss Silva, post: 7467260, member: 47539″]
    Marco Statement:

    It has been a real honour to have managed Everton for the past 18 months and I would like to thank Farhad Moshiri, Bill Kenwright, Denise Barrett-Baxendale, Keith Harris, Marcel Brands and the entire board for giving me the opportunity to be part of this special club.
    “Thank you to all of the Evertonian fans who always live and breathe the club and show such great passion.
    “A special thank you to all of the players, for their professionalism and the commitment they put into their work every day and to to the club staff who welcomed me to Finch Farm training ground and made me feel at home. All the best. COYB.”
    [/QUOTE]

    A very sound guy.

    Hope he finds success.

  13. [QUOTE=”Boss Silva, post: 7467260, member: 47539″]
    Marco Statement:

    It has been a real honour to have managed Everton for the past 18 months and I would like to thank Farhad Moshiri, Bill Kenwright, Denise Barrett-Baxendale, Keith Harris, Marcel Brands and the entire board for giving me the opportunity to be part of this special club.
    “Thank you to all of the Evertonian fans who always live and breathe the club and show such great passion.
    “A special thank you to all of the players, for their professionalism and the commitment they put into their work every day and to to the club staff who welcomed me to Finch Farm training ground and made me feel at home. All the best. COYB.”
    [/QUOTE]

    Class act to be fair to him.

  14. Marco Statement:

    It has been a real honour to have managed Everton for the past 18 months and I would like to thank Farhad Moshiri, Bill Kenwright, Denise Barrett-Baxendale, Keith Harris, Marcel Brands and the entire board for giving me the opportunity to be part of this special club.
    “Thank you to all of the Evertonian fans who always live and breathe the club and show such great passion.
    “A special thank you to all of the players, for their professionalism and the commitment they put into their work every day and to to the club staff who welcomed me to Finch Farm training ground and made me feel at home. All the best. COYB.”

  15. [QUOTE=”Toffeelover, post: 7465975, member: 17714″]
    Think Everton was too big a job for Silva and his experimental tactics.
    [/QUOTE]
    We had tactics?

  16. Just watching that City doc on Amazon for the first time and wondering “Can I see Marco Silva dancing on a treatment bench?”

  17. [QUOTE=”jceverton, post: 7465541, member: 2345″]
    If he doesn’t make the sole decision then he’s not accountable for it. He’s either the DOF or we sack him. There’s no middle ground on this.
    [/QUOTE]

    Fine, i think he needs to go so.

  18. [QUOTE=”hayatcokgarip, post: 7466035, member: 48881″]
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    You could just see them all whizzing around town in a big black van with a red sash belting out the theme to the A-Team.

    I’d love them to create a cabbage launcher and fire it at Morgan. If you have a problem, you know who to call…

  19. [QUOTE=”jceverton, post: 7465541, member: 2345″]
    If he doesn’t make the sole decision then he’s not accountable for it. He’s either the DOF or we sack him. There’s no middle ground on this.
    [/QUOTE]

    Ok let’s sack him

  20. Results are in! good sample amount to work with for next round of research. You did us proud on this Marco.

    [MEDIA=twitter]1202548659688235009[/MEDIA]

  21. [QUOTE=”BirkenheadBlue, post: 7466000, member: 1974″]
    [USER=23770]@Kev The Rat[/USER] alright lad, no need for that.
    [/QUOTE]
    Had enough of these pampered players thinking being in the relegation zone is an acceptable price to pay for bad management

  22. [QUOTE=”BirkenheadBlue, post: 7465407, member: 1974″]
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    [USER=23770]@Kev The Rat[/USER] alright lad, no need for that.

  23. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7465417, member: 52747″]
    He’s a good lad really.
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    [USER=23770]@Kev The Rat[/USER] alright lad, no need for that.

  24. Esk is a clown Mata is ours says it all. The agreed strategy wasn’t working. Silva wasn’t working I have said he was unlucky with injury. An the joke Koeman signing that are still in are squad an offer very little.

    That said tho his record when we went behind there is no excuse for that shows him up as a poor manager that would never have took us forward. So a new strategy is needed an hopefully this time we manage to find the right man for the job.

  25. [QUOTE=”Mikey_Fitzgerald, post: 7465453, member: 16760″]
    Poor Esk

    Tbf to him, someone else who I trust felt quite strongly that silva would at least survive till Saturday, so [B]things might have changed[/B]. You never know
    [/QUOTE]

    You would hope a breakthrough with his replacement. But with this club…

  26. [QUOTE=”Lelouch, post: 7465747, member: 49661″]
    Judging from the players comments Mina/Digne it gives the impression they really liked him yet we played absolute garbage football, Bit bizarre this.
    [/QUOTE]

    I loved my manager in the pub I worked in as a teen. I was bad at orders and he let me have sex with lounge staff in the utility room.

  27. Judging from the players comments Mina/Digne it gives the impression they really liked him yet we played absolute garbage football, Bit bizarre this.

  28. [QUOTE=”Rooney_Tunes, post: 7465640, member: 53040″]
    “We” had an agreed strategy.

    The ESK and Marcel?
    [/QUOTE]

    Marcel, Drop Dead Fred’s cousin.

  29. [QUOTE=”Death, post: 7465495, member: 43971″]
    [MEDIA=twitter]1202670080842240001[/MEDIA]
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    “We” had an agreed strategy.

    The ESK and Marcel?

  30. [QUOTE=”jceverton, post: 7465541, member: 2345″]
    If he doesn’t make the sole decision then he’s not accountable for it. He’s either the DOF or we sack him. There’s no middle ground on this.
    [/QUOTE]

    This.

    I can understand Moshiri wanting to meet the guy and be assured by him and Brands that he’s the right man for the job. But no way should he be selecting candidates.

    It’s like when Dave argues that Silva was just being given players with no input into even their position or attributes, I wondered why any manager would stay in a job where they were being set up to fail like that. If Brands isn’t allowed to control the football side of things, when his services are quite highly rated in the football world, why would he stay in that job?

  31. [QUOTE=”Rogue Trader, post: 7465023, member: 14138″]
    It was his job to being in quality players, he has failed in that regard,given his track record of recruiting i would not want him making such a big decision on his own.
    [/QUOTE]
    If he doesn’t make the sole decision then he’s not accountable for it. He’s either the DOF or we sack him. There’s no middle ground on this.

  32. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7465516, member: 52747″]
    It’s the “we” that does it. Like he’s one of the people making the strategy.
    [/QUOTE]

    They probably do talk to him like a detective would give a kid a pretend badge and tell him he’s on the force. Like they pity him. “Yes esky we’ll get Mata and Witzel now here’s 2 bob run to the shop and get yourself some coke bottle jellies”

  33. [QUOTE=”Death, post: 7465502, member: 43971″]
    Moshiri is an absolute scumbag not taking esks ego into account. Terrible leadership.
    [/QUOTE]

    It’s the “we” that does it. Like he’s one of the people making the strategy.

  34. [QUOTE=”Death, post: 7465495, member: 43971″]
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    Moshiri is an absolute scumbag not taking esks ego into account. Terrible leadership.

  35. [QUOTE=”Death, post: 7465435, member: 43971″]
    [MEDIA=twitter]1202496150550581248[/MEDIA]
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    [MEDIA=twitter]1202670080842240001[/MEDIA]

  36. [QUOTE=”Archie Knox, post: 7465465, member: 54469″]
    I see knob head Alan Stubbs had piped up again:

    “Former Everton defender Alan Stubbs believes David Moyes would help restore the spirit within the squad if he was to replace Marco Silva.”

    Unreal.
    [/QUOTE]

    Add Osman in.

    Oh why are we the only club who is subjected to the media bukkake of trying to get one of their boys in a job?

    Never see it happen at other clubs – you dont see the media desperate for Moyes or Alladyce to get the Watford or Arsenal job so why us…

  37. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7465463, member: 52747″]
    His hissy fit at the club not doing what he thought they would was delicious

    “We had a strategy!!!!”

    You’re not on the board, lid.
    [/QUOTE]

    Really?

    Oh Esk

    He doesn’t help himself sometimes, love him though I do

  38. [QUOTE=”Jonte, post: 7465464, member: 28932″]
    Serious question.

    Is there an algorithm for team formations?
    [/QUOTE]

    I find this question intriguing.

    What do you mean exactly?

  39. I see knob head Alan Stubbs had piped up again:

    “Former Everton defender Alan Stubbs believes David Moyes would help restore the spirit within the squad if he was to replace Marco Silva.”

    Unreal.

  40. [QUOTE=”Mikey_Fitzgerald, post: 7465453, member: 16760″]
    Poor Esk

    Tbf to him, someone else who I trust felt quite strongly that silva would at least survive till Saturday, so things might have changed. You never know
    [/QUOTE]

    His hissy fit at the club not doing what he thought they would was delicious

    “We had a strategy!!!!”

    You’re not on the board, lid.

  41. [QUOTE=”Mikey_Fitzgerald, post: 7465453, member: 16760″]
    Poor Esk

    Tbf to him, someone else who I trust felt quite strongly that silva would at least survive till Saturday, so things might have changed. You never know
    [/QUOTE]

    My heart bleeds for him Fitzer

  42. [QUOTE=”Death, post: 7465435, member: 43971″]
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    Poor Esk

    Tbf to him, someone else who I trust felt quite strongly that silva would at least survive till Saturday, so things might have changed. You never know

  43. [QUOTE=”BirkenheadBlue, post: 7465407, member: 1974″]
    [MEDIA=instagram]B5tZtdVnoEO[/MEDIA]
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    TR January 1st

  44. Only smart thing our board have done this season is tie down Richi before they fired his mate’s sorry arse. That said, he probably only signed the contract as it likely has some sort of exit clause in it, be it price, relegation, whatever.

  45. [QUOTE=”BirkenheadBlue, post: 7465407, member: 1974″]
    [MEDIA=instagram]B5tZtdVnoEO[/MEDIA]
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    He’s a good lad really.

  46. Absolutely appalling manager who should have never, ever been given the job in the first place. Thanks to Mr Moshiri’s idiocy, we’ve wasted yet another two years of potential. Surely this idiot must be taken out of future managerial discussions now. Failure after failure under his stewardship.

  47. [QUOTE=”Heath, post: 7465178, member: 23720″]
    Moshiri needs to go to Madrid and demand a meeting with Diego Simeone and his representatives, he needs to go there and explain to DS that we want him here and he has the potential to become an all time manager of football.

    Tell him he fell short at Atleti but he now has the opportunity to manage the Jewel in the Crown of English football. The Prem League is the place to be. Tell him we want EFC to be NSNO.
    [/QUOTE]

    Do you think you are realistic to find Simeone or Poch and imagine they will eager to come? :coffee:

    I am quite sure no first tier managers are willing to come here until the end of the season

  48. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7464721, member: 3358″]
    Yeah cos they are doing great without him.
    [/QUOTE]

    Indeed they are, great fan base

  49. [QUOTE=”Bryan, post: 7465193, member: 28206″]
    I’ve said it elsewhere but this is a very dangerous spiral we’re in and only one man is responsible for the mess we’re in. This won’t change until there is a significant change of board level people, which hopefully is around the corner.

    Keep the faith blues, its all we’ve got at the moment. 😉
    [/QUOTE]
    That oaf has to be pushed out the door. He’s a complete embarrassment to the club.

  50. [QUOTE=”Toast, post: 7463175, member: 30704″]
    Osman on the radio wanting Moyes.

    What a surprise.
    [/QUOTE]
    He really does hate us doesnt he.

  51. [QUOTE=”longers, post: 7465199, member: 29646″]
    bed
    [/QUOTE]
    I’ve got a day off today and our kid is doing the mopping up so it’s a late night for me…in fact I’m just about to re reference my library as it’s gathering dust.

  52. [QUOTE=”Heath, post: 7465178, member: 23720″]
    Moshiri needs to go to Madrid and demand a meeting with Diego Simeone and his representatives, he needs to go there and explain to DS that we want him here and he has the potential to become an all time manager of football.

    Tell him he fell short at Atleti but he now has the opportunity to manage the Jewel in the Crown of English football. The Prem League is the place to be. Tell him we want EFC to be NSNO.
    [/QUOTE]

    bed

  53. I’ve said it elsewhere but this is a very dangerous spiral we’re in and only one man is responsible for the mess we’re in. This won’t change until there is a significant change of board level people, which hopefully is around the corner.

    Keep the faith blues, its all we’ve got at the moment. 😉

  54. I know it went bad at the end but I’m gonna look back fondly on all the good times we had with him in charge. You know that one game where we didn’t embarase ourselves and also that other time where you know what I’m talkin about, where we did that thing?

  55. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7465179, member: 3358″]
    He fell short??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    [/QUOTE]
    Yes mate.

  56. [QUOTE=”Heath, post: 7465178, member: 23720″]
    Moshiri needs to go to Madrid and demand a meeting with Diego Simeone and his representatives, he needs to go there and explain to DS that we want him here and he has the potential to become an all time manager of football.

    Tell him he fell short at Atleti but he now has the opportunity to manage the Jewel in the Crown of English football. The Prem League is the place to be. Tell him we want EFC to be NSNO.
    [/QUOTE]

    He fell short??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  57. Moshiri needs to go to Madrid and demand a meeting with Diego Simeone and his representatives, he needs to go there and explain to DS that we want him here and he has the potential to become an all time manager of football.

    Tell him he fell short at Atleti but he now has the opportunity to manage the Jewel in the Crown of English football. The Prem League is the place to be. Tell him we want EFC to be NSNO.

  58. [QUOTE=”AndyC, post: 7465171, member: 26535″]
    Whilst that word got through the bad language filter, we’d prefer it if you didn’t use it.
    [/QUOTE]
    Sorry about that. It is accurate and succinct though.

  59. [QUOTE=”tonka1878, post: 7464880, member: 5538″]
    Can we use the term clusterfuck? Because that is what this club is becoming!
    Getting rid of Silva was probably the right thing to do but the whole situation is bleak. That is what, 4 managers in 10 years (plus Unsworth) and now we are hoping on a romantic fairy tale in the shape of Duncan. God damn Bill Kenwright and his production of Everton football club, there is only so much drama I can cope with!
    [/QUOTE]
    Whilst that word got through the bad language filter, we’d prefer it if you didn’t use it.

  60. [QUOTE=”Lelouch, post: 7464855, member: 49661″]
    [MEDIA=twitter]1202723953745289216[/MEDIA] kinell
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    Cursed image

  61. Three headline articles on the BBC sport page…how proud you must be, Everton.

    So nice to get our name out there…well played.

  62. [QUOTE=”OnlyBlueWillDo, post: 7464954, member: 45896″]
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    Bet he’s been smiling about us for weeks.

  63. [QUOTE=”Lob, post: 7464956, member: 17797″]
    The millions of pounds he will receive for his contract being terminated early will be of some comfort to him as well.
    [/QUOTE]
    … and don’t forget the 50% off coupon Blue Bill gave him for [I]Blood Brothers[/I] tickets (Mon-Thurs performances only; max 2 tickets; other Ts&Cs apply).

  64. [QUOTE=”jceverton, post: 7463588, member: 2345″]
    It’s his job! We know that Kenwright and Moshiri haven’t got a clue. Who’d you suggest is in charge of the decision?!
    [/QUOTE]

    It was his job to being in quality players, he has failed in that regard,given his track record of recruiting i would not want him making such a big decision on his own.

  65. [QUOTE=”TimHowardsBeardJuice, post: 7464860, member: 52476″]
    All of these things are true IMO.

    -He’s a decent man.
    -He cared about the club.
    -He was not good tactically.
    -His lineups and substitution patterns were bad.
    -He should have been fired earlier.
    -They treated him poorly by stringing him along.
    -The club had terrible luck this year.
    -He had no idea how to fix it.
    -Had the club not had such luck, he’d be mid-table or better.
    -He’s far from the only problem at Everton.
    -The team will do better without him.
    -During his best run of games the team played their best football over the past few years.
    [/QUOTE]
    Excellent summation

  66. [QUOTE=”ForeverBlue92, post: 7464870, member: 51774″]
    Will people stop feeling sorry for him – he could play a big part in us possibly going down this season.
    [/QUOTE]

    The millions of pounds he will receive for his contract being terminated early will be of some comfort to him as well.

  67. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7464621, member: 54899″]
    He had the notoriously difficult January window to reshape the dross into an attacking outfit seems to be your logic.

    You seem to be forgetting how crap this crew was prior to his structure and what a transformation it was squaring relegation fears by the turn of the year. If these balloons were so capable of the togger you seem to think was in them then why did Silva and Brands off load so many and bring in more during the summer?

    Come on. lad get your thinking cap on
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    lol you make it sound like I was expecting us to challenge for the title!

    Whilst there are obvious difficulties being appointed mid season, those challenges apply to all managers and in his 6 months in charge we ranked 20th for total shots, 19th for total shots on target, 16th for passing accuracy and 17th for shots faced in the Premier League. You would expect that he’d have been able to improve the latter two at the very least. And there is no excuse for thinking a draw with Swansea in April (when they got relegated with a miserly 33 pts) was in any way ”good” draw.

  68. [QUOTE=”Lelouch, post: 7464855, member: 49661″]
    [MEDIA=twitter]1202723953745289216[/MEDIA] kinell
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    Can we have him on the right pls

  69. Can we use the term clusterfuck? Because that is what this club is becoming!
    Getting rid of Silva was probably the right thing to do but the whole situation is bleak. That is what, 4 managers in 10 years (plus Unsworth) and now we are hoping on a romantic fairy tale in the shape of Duncan. God damn Bill Kenwright and his production of Everton football club, there is only so much drama I can cope with!

  70. [QUOTE=”TimHowardsBeardJuice, post: 7464860, member: 52476″]
    All of these things are true IMO.

    -He’s a decent man.
    -He cared about the club.
    -He was not good tactically.
    -His lineups and substitution patterns were bad.
    -He should have been fired earlier.
    -They treated him poorly by stringing him along.
    -The club had terrible luck this year.
    -He had no idea how to fix it.
    -Had the club not had such luck, he’d be mid-table or better.
    -He’s far from the only problem at Everton.
    -The team will do better without him.
    -During his best run of games the team played their best football over the past few years.
    [/QUOTE]
    100% true all of these statements!

  71. Will people stop feeling sorry for him – he could play a big part in us possibly going down this season.

  72. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7464721, member: 3358″]
    Yeah cos they are doing great without him.
    [/QUOTE]
    Seriously, that’s complete revisionist history with them. They were beyond pissed he wanted to move on. It’s a shame the people hiring didn’t have concerns about how it ended there because that was Silva in a nutshell.

  73. All of these things are true IMO.

    -He’s a decent man.
    -He cared about the club.
    -He was not good tactically.
    -His lineups and substitution patterns were bad.
    -He should have been fired earlier.
    -They treated him poorly by stringing him along.
    -The club had terrible luck this year.
    -He had no idea how to fix it.
    -Had the club not had such luck, he’d be mid-table or better.
    -He’s far from the only problem at Everton.
    -The team will do better without him.
    -During his best run of games the team played their best football over the past few years.

  74. The recruitment has been terrible. It doesn’t all stem from Silva’s tenure, but we have amassed a lot of journeymen who will not fight for the cause or at the very least give up far too easy and look to hide behind someone else. These are not the characters we need at the club. We need leaders on the pitch.

    I don’t feel sorry for Silva. There are many managers that will never have the funds to spend that he has had. He had a tremendous opportunity here and can blame no one else for why it hasn’t materialised and was never likely to under his leadership.

  75. Tough to argue with that assessment about Keane:-) However, he has everything to make a great defender – its just when he passes right to an opponent or watches a ball pass right pass him into a gap behind him, you scratch your head and wonder what planet he was on? I think its a concentration issue – and a GOOD coach could do something with him. That’s all.

  76. Think Silva is a decent manager, but definately time for a change now.
    Not producing enough with the players at his disposal, and naivity in tactics makes me think he is not experience enough/cut out for the premier league. But obviously has a high top-level, and is very well respected amongst players. Extremely unlucky this year as well (see [URL]https://understat.com/league/EPL[/URL] – sort by xPTS) , but still hasnt produced enthuisiasm nor points, and is therefore bound to go.

    Will go on to have a great career in Portugal/Russia/Greece/Belgium. (maybe even mid-table Spain)

  77. [QUOTE=”Bob Latchford, post: 7464675, member: 16883″]
    Many Watford fans on telling us they told us so?
    [/QUOTE]

    Yeah cos they are doing great without him.

  78. [QUOTE=”ToffeeTim, post: 7464686, member: 35951″]
    Really wanted him to do the business.

    Another in a long line of managers who I wrongly thought would push us on.

    Just all a bit deflating
    [/QUOTE]
    The saddest and probably the worst thing is I have no trust , confidence that they can or will get the next appointment right,

  79. [QUOTE=”SantaClausisanEvertonian, post: 7464491, member: 39545″]
    I have to admit to feeling a little sad tonight.
    Silva had to go for sure but I genuinely believe he is a decent chap who was trying his best for our great club. Ultimately, his best was nowhere near good enough.
    Compare tonight with the euphoria that greeted Koeman’s sacking and the end of Bisto Boy’s horrible association with us and I hope you’ll see what I mean.
    I wish Marco well wherever he ends up and I hope, for his sake, it’s not back at the joke of a club known as Watford.
    [/QUOTE]
    He seemed like he didn’t know how to turn things around though. We just looked lost this season

  80. [QUOTE=”peteblue, post: 7464566, member: 8392″]
    says it all really…..

    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TH]Recent record of Everton managers in the Premier League[/TH]
    [TH][/TH]

    [TH][/TH]

    [TH][/TH]

    [TH][/TH]

    [TH][/TH]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD][B]Manager[/B][/TD]
    [TD][B]Games[/B][/TD]
    [TD][B]Wins[/B][/TD]
    [TD][B]Draws[/B][/TD]
    [TD][B]Losses[/B][/TD]
    [TD][B]Win percentage[/B][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]David Moyes[/TD]
    [TD]427[/TD]
    [TD]173[/TD]
    [TD]123[/TD]
    [TD]131[/TD]
    [TD]40.5%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Roberto Martinez[/TD]
    [TD]113[/TD]
    [TD]43[/TD]
    [TD]34[/TD]
    [TD]36[/TD]
    [TD]38.1%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Ronald Koeman[/TD]
    [TD]47[/TD]
    [TD]19[/TD]
    [TD]12[/TD]
    [TD]16[/TD]
    [TD]40.4%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Sam Allardyce[/TD]
    [TD]24[/TD]
    [TD]9[/TD]
    [TD]7[/TD]
    [TD]8[/TD]
    [TD]37.5%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Marco Silva[/TD]
    [TD]53[/TD]
    [TD]19[/TD]
    [TD]11[/TD]
    [TD]23[/TD]
    [TD]35.9%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [/QUOTE]

    If Silva carries on that record until the end of the season we finish on about 45 points. Really poor but lower mid table.

  81. He should’ve been sacked long ago, I can’t say I’m overjoyed right now because the real problem at the club is those above him. Who have constantly failed and I have little faith to make the right decisions.

    I hope they fluke an appointment who drags the entire club up from it’s knees.

  82. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7464639, member: 54899″]
    Even if that point is the Championship??

    Think you may be in a minority of one with that choice, kiddo
    [/QUOTE]
    Are you suggesting the only entertaining football is played in the Championship?
    If so I beg to differ, ‘[I]kiddo[/I]’.

  83. Really wanted him to do the business.

    Another in a long line of managers who I wrongly thought would push us on.

    Just all a bit deflating

  84. I have to say I feel sorry for him. Not that he should have kept his job, his record was woeful, but the way it was handled was poor. Normally I’m of the view that, I wish I could receive a multi-million pound pay-off for being awful at my job, but this was done in such a way as to draw it out unnecessarily and humiliate the man further.

    I am glad that he has gone (providing we don’t appoint Moyes or Howe), because his record was awful, but unlike so many of our managers, I think he’s a decent bloke. We have managed to not only embarrass ourselves as a club, but also humiliate a man that didn’t deserve it. He should have been punted the previous international break with an appropriate successor already lined up so the transition can be smooth.

    I don’t get how this club manages to be so small-time with its sentimentality with things like unnecessary contract extensions etc. and yet still manages to do something as unprofessional and heartless as this. We really are a joke.

  85. Good luck, Marco. It’s a great shame that it didn’t work out but I wish you success in the future.

  86. Good luck to him

    Didn’t hate him like I did Koemon and Allardyce

    Hopefully we get the next appointment right (we probably won’t)

  87. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7464629, member: 19905″]
    :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
    [/QUOTE]
    I’ve really got under your skin haven’t I lad?

    Love my stalkers lol

  88. [QUOTE=”dwscz1, post: 7464369, member: 55075″]
    Keane, a really good defender
    [/QUOTE]
    Who does he play for?
    Because the one we have is atrocious.

    1. Tough to argue with that assessment about Keane:-) However, he has everything to make a great defender – its just when he passes right to an opponent or watches a ball pass right pass him into a gap behind him, you scratch your head and wonder what planet he was on? I think its a concentration issue – and a GOOD coach could do something with him. That’s all.

  89. [QUOTE=”Eggsyblueskin, post: 7464195, member: 22869″]
    Football is still meant to be vaguely entertaining at some point.
    [/QUOTE]
    Even if that point is the Championship??

    Think you may be in a minority of one with that choice, kiddo

  90. [QUOTE=”LinekersLegs, post: 7464456, member: 24162″]
    Successful? Sam had the same average points return as Unsworth, we were smashed by both Spurs and Arsenal by 4 goals and we got kicked out of the FA cup in the first round. And that is just the results – the football itself was even worse!

    We were safe by Christmas and Sam got the rest of the season to see if he could be anything more than he had shown in any of his previous long career – he instead wanted to settle for draws against the mighty Swansea and Watford.
    [/QUOTE]
    He had the notoriously difficult January window to reshape the dross into an attacking outfit seems to be your logic.

    You seem to be forgetting how crap this crew was prior to his structure and what a transformation it was squaring relegation fears by the turn of the year. If these balloons were so capable of the togger you seem to think was in them then why did Silva and Brands off load so many and bring in more during the summer?

    Come on. lad get your thinking cap on

  91. [QUOTE=”SantaClausisanEvertonian, post: 7464491, member: 39545″]
    I have to admit to feeling a little sad tonight.
    Silva had to go for sure but I genuinely believe he is a decent chap who was trying his best for our great club. Ultimately, his best was nowhere near good enough.
    Compare tonight with the euphoria that greeted Koeman’s sacking and the end of Bisto Boy’s horrible association with us and I hope you’ll see what I mean.
    I wish Marco well wherever he ends up and I hope, for his sake, it’s not back at the joke of a club known as Watford.
    [/QUOTE]

    Good post, my thoughts exactly, think he was very unlucky with injuries this season, poor recruitment in the summer and the needs of the business to sell players.

    Wish him well, I think he will go on elsewhere.

    No winner here, the club or the manager.

  92. says it all really…..

    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TH]Recent record of Everton managers in the Premier League[/TH]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD][B]Manager[/B][/TD]
    [TD][B]Games[/B][/TD]
    [TD][B]Wins[/B][/TD]
    [TD][B]Draws[/B][/TD]
    [TD][B]Losses[/B][/TD]
    [TD][B]Win percentage[/B][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]David Moyes[/TD]
    [TD]427[/TD]
    [TD]173[/TD]
    [TD]123[/TD]
    [TD]131[/TD]
    [TD]40.5%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Roberto Martinez[/TD]
    [TD]113[/TD]
    [TD]43[/TD]
    [TD]34[/TD]
    [TD]36[/TD]
    [TD]38.1%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Ronald Koeman[/TD]
    [TD]47[/TD]
    [TD]19[/TD]
    [TD]12[/TD]
    [TD]16[/TD]
    [TD]40.4%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Sam Allardyce[/TD]
    [TD]24[/TD]
    [TD]9[/TD]
    [TD]7[/TD]
    [TD]8[/TD]
    [TD]37.5%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Marco Silva[/TD]
    [TD]53[/TD]
    [TD]19[/TD]
    [TD]11[/TD]
    [TD]23[/TD]
    [TD]35.9%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]

  93. [QUOTE=”Tubey, post: 7464366, member: 8574″]
    Silva is proven failure over 18 months. Ferguson isn’t.

    There was no point persisting with a proven failure.

    Ferguson is a caretaker, nothing more. Its doing something rather than nothing.

    In reality, Silva should have been sacked in the summer.
    [/QUOTE]

    Spot bollock!!

  94. [QUOTE=”GwladysPhil, post: 7464221, member: 39274″]
    You might want to sit down right now.

    But he gets a multi million pound payout, from the club, for being awful at his job.
    [/QUOTE]

    Exactly which is why this is disappointing all round, add it to the other 50 mill weve wasted on managers to get worse. I have sympathy for Silva though, the club is a basket case.

    He’s better of leaving in my opinion, career wise, managers know the score and go on often to better things., while we continue to pay them.

  95. [QUOTE=”Tubey, post: 7464455, member: 8574″]
    But we’re not appointing Ferguson. What we’re doing is not tolerating overwhelming failure.

    I can’t for the life of me understand how any Evertonian could have a problem with the sacking of Silva. It’s… weird.
    [/QUOTE]

    Because I’m worried that the solution they come up with is going to be even worse, just as it was when Koeman was sacked! Not only is it theoretically possible, we have experience of the exact outcome in the last two years.

  96. I have to admit to feeling a little sad tonight.
    Silva had to go for sure but I genuinely believe he is a decent chap who was trying his best for our great club. Ultimately, his best was nowhere near good enough.
    Compare tonight with the euphoria that greeted Koeman’s sacking and the end of Bisto Boy’s horrible association with us and I hope you’ll see what I mean.
    I wish Marco well wherever he ends up and I hope, for his sake, it’s not back at the joke of a club known as Watford.

  97. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7464448, member: 19905″]
    :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
    [/QUOTE]
    Oh, you’ve gone the yoga route so glad I could help

    Call anytime you have no argument and are in full fume :bye:

  98. [QUOTE=”Keiran, post: 7464214, member: 38674″]
    Loud and clear……

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    [/QUOTE]
    “Hey you guys!!!!”
    Is chunk gonna be his number 2 and truffle shuffle on the side line

  99. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7464386, member: 54899″]
    Not at all it was simply rank bad management not continuing the only successful appointment Mosh has made for an unproven Portuguese whim. Should never listen to subsections of a fanbase that way lies anarchy and failure as we’re seeing
    [/QUOTE]
    Successful? Sam had the same average points return as Unsworth, we were smashed by both Spurs and Arsenal by 4 goals and we got kicked out of the FA cup in the first round. And that is just the results – the football itself was even worse!

    We were safe by Christmas and Sam got the rest of the season to see if he could be anything more than he had shown in any of his previous long career – he instead wanted to settle for draws against the mighty Swansea and Watford.

  100. [QUOTE=”Berenger, post: 7464424, member: 11160″]
    That logic is just bonkers. It assumes action is always better than inaction. (Cf. the Unsworth experiment.) It means you could put anyone in regardless of qualification or ability just because there’s no historical evidence of them failing.

    Rather, we should be making proactive decisions that — crucially — we think will improve things. Appointing Duncan is precisely not that, regardless of how Marco has done this season or last or ever!
    [/QUOTE]

    But we’re not appointing Ferguson. What we’re doing is not tolerating overwhelming failure.

    I can’t for the life of me understand how any Evertonian could have a problem with the sacking of Silva. It’s… weird.

  101. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7464437, member: 54899″]
    You’re so upset …. have you tried hot milk and biccies when you get irate about different opinions?

    Give it a go or yoga
    [/QUOTE]

    :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

  102. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7464353, member: 19905″]
    im reading utter crap is what I’m reading

    try a bit of subtlety maybe if you’re on a wumming expedition.
    [/QUOTE]
    You’re so upset …. have you tried hot milk and biccies when you get irate about different opinions?

    Give it a go or yoga

  103. [QUOTE=”Tubey, post: 7464366, member: 8574″]
    Silva is proven failure over 18 months. Ferguson isn’t.

    There was no point persisting with a proven failure.

    Ferguson is a caretaker, nothing more. Its doing something rather than nothing.

    In reality, Silva should have been sacked in the summer.
    [/QUOTE]

    That logic is just bonkers. It assumes action is always better than inaction. (Cf. the Unsworth experiment.) It means you could put anyone in regardless of qualification or ability just because there’s no historical evidence of them failing.

    Rather, we should be making proactive decisions that — crucially — we think will improve things. Appointing Duncan is precisely not that, regardless of how Marco has done this season or last or ever!

  104. [QUOTE=”COYBL25, post: 7464351, member: 8087″]
    Put down the crack pipe.
    [/QUOTE]
    You’ve just been told by the originator it wasn’t me lol just how ill are you?

  105. [QUOTE=”dwscz1, post: 7464369, member: 55075″]
    Please.. not Duncan as manager. He is supposed to be the striker coach. We have some of the best headers of a ball in the league – Keane, Mina, DCL – even Tosun, Kean, Richarlison, … 2 or three good wing backs, yet EVERY time they head the ball right at the keeper. Its every time. Liverpool get 5 chances and score 5 times. Even the goals we score from headers they go straight from wherever the player is in relation to the net. The first to go should have been Ferguson. I honestly thing a lot of Everton problems are pure coaching. Why does Keane, a really good defender, have such terrible lapses of concentration? Am I the only one who can see this?
    [/QUOTE]

    He’ll be in charge of one, two games tops. The club statement basically makes it clear he’s not being considered for the job full time.

    I don’t see the problem as long as its a stopgap solution to an actual targeted manager.

  106. [QUOTE=”dwscz1, post: 7464369, member: 55075″]
    Please.. not Duncan as manager. He is supposed to be the striker coach. We have some of the best headers of a ball in the league – Keane, Mina, DCL – even Tosun, [B]Kean[/B], Richarlison, … 2 or three good wing backs, yet EVERY time they head the ball right at the keeper. Its every time. Liverpool get 5 chances and score 5 times. Even the goals we score from headers they go straight from wherever the player is in relation to the net. The first to go should have been Ferguson. I honestly thing a lot of Everton problems are pure coaching. Why does Keane, a really good defender, have such terrible lapses of concentration? Am I the only one who can see this?
    [/QUOTE]
    Ever seen him head a ball?

  107. [QUOTE=”LinekersLegs, post: 7464335, member: 24162″]
    Tbf it was me that brought up Allardyce – only to discover[B] I was speaking to his one man fan club![/B]
    [/QUOTE]
    Not at all it was simply rank bad management not continuing the only successful appointment Mosh has made for an unproven Portuguese whim. Should never listen to subsections of a fanbase that way lies anarchy and failure as we’re seeing

  108. Please.. not Duncan as manager. He is supposed to be the striker coach. We have some of the best headers of a ball in the league – Keane, Mina, DCL – even Tosun, Kean, Richarlison, … 2 or three good wing backs, yet EVERY time they head the ball right at the keeper. Its every time. Liverpool get 5 chances and score 5 times. Even the goals we score from headers they go straight from wherever the player is in relation to the net. The first to go should have been Ferguson. I honestly thing a lot of Everton problems are pure coaching. Why does Keane, a really good defender, have such terrible lapses of concentration? Am I the only one who can see this?

  109. [QUOTE=”Berenger, post: 7464347, member: 11160″]
    Looking at the counterfactual isn’t a weird angle it’s the ONLY angle!

    If Duncan is worse than Marco, what’s the point in sacking Marco?
    [/QUOTE]

    Silva is proven failure over 18 months. Ferguson isn’t.

    There was no point persisting with a proven failure.

    Ferguson is a caretaker, nothing more. Its doing something rather than nothing.

    In reality, Silva should have been sacked in the summer.

  110. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7464339, member: 54899″]
    You’re reading you befuddled little oik
    [/QUOTE]

    im reading utter crap is what I’m reading

    try a bit of subtlety maybe if you’re on a wumming expedition.

  111. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7464312, member: 54899″]
    Wasn’t me, lad, you need to get your specs on and scroll back
    [/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7463820, member: 54899″]
    Not only did Sam accomplish what he was brought in to do but we never gave him a chance once he did it. The only thing weird about Sam’s tenure was the ingratitude by a section of the fanbase and Moshiri not being man enough to rise above it
    [/QUOTE]

    Put down the crack pipe.

  112. [QUOTE=”Tubey, post: 7464305, member: 8574″]
    There was every need to sack him. You’re looking at this from a very strange angle.

    It isn’t just the derby, it’s sustained, total failure over 18 months apart from a pointless run at the end of the season when the pressure was off. He’s barely won a football game of consequence during his entire time here.
    [/QUOTE]

    Looking at the counterfactual isn’t a weird angle it’s the ONLY angle!

    If Duncan is worse than Marco, what’s the point in sacking Marco?

  113. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7464294, member: 19905″]
    cant [B]hear [/B]you WUM with all the refuse on top your head in there
    [/QUOTE]
    You’re reading you befuddled little oik

  114. [QUOTE=”COYBL25, post: 7464284, member: 8087″]
    Why bring up Allardyce in the first place.

    He`s gone and soon to be forgotten.
    [/QUOTE]
    Tbf it was me that brought up Allardyce – only to discover I was speaking to his one man fan club!

  115. [QUOTE=”COYBL25, post: 7464284, member: 8087″]
    Why bring up Allardyce in the first place.

    He`s gone and soon to be forgotten.
    [/QUOTE]
    Wasn’t me, lad, you need to get your specs on and scroll back

  116. [QUOTE=”Berenger, post: 7464238, member: 11160″]
    Genuinely can’t believe the ineptitude of repeating the whole Koeman débâcle all over again. No need to sack a manager that clearly hasn’t lost the players unless you have a better replacement lined up. They’ve knee-jerked after the derby pummelling and idiot Kenwright is treating the whole thing like one of his West End plays as per. Utter shambles.
    [/QUOTE]

    There was every need to sack him. You’re looking at this from a very strange angle.

    It isn’t just the derby, it’s sustained, total failure over 18 months apart from a pointless run at the end of the season when the pressure was off. He’s barely won a football game of consequence during his entire time here.

  117. He wasn’t very good. He was out of his depth. He had little ability to motivate. His tactics were awful. He could not organise a defence. Every corner had the fans in despair. He was a waste of space……

  118. The bad man is gone. Now will they bring in the badder man (Moyes) or actually get a good man. Find out on the next episode of Everton Z.

  119. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7464281, member: 54899″]
    You want me to go in your house?

    Tart
    [/QUOTE]

    cant hear you WUM with all the refuse on top your head in there

  120. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7464269, member: 54899″]
    So you don’t wanna beat the RS and win something – that’s great that. 😳
    [/QUOTE]

    Why bring up Allardyce in the first place.

    He`s gone and soon to be forgotten.

  121. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7464215, member: 19905″]
    throw yourself in the nearest bin
    [/QUOTE]
    You want me to go in your house?

    Tart

  122. [QUOTE=”COYBL25, post: 7464242, member: 8087″]
    Bed.
    [/QUOTE]
    So you don’t wanna beat the RS and win something – that’s great that. 😳

  123. [QUOTE=”Bungle, post: 7464173, member: 8697″]
    Sounds like my last date.
    [/QUOTE]

    Like you’ve ever had a date……

  124. Wish him all the best, but he was too stubborn to change his ways & it ultimately cost him. The players form didn’t help his cause, but he made them fragile.

    Most annoyed at him for not just blasting VAR which contributed to him now losing his job, he needed to stand up for the club a few times but didn’t.

  125. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7464208, member: 54899″]
    None had the resources the Mosh boy was offering. He could walk around shouting “heil hitler” if he laced the RS and won something imo
    [/QUOTE]

    Bed.

  126. [QUOTE=”Keiran, post: 7464214, member: 38674″]
    Loud and clear……

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    [/QUOTE]what character is he in Thunderbirds?

  127. Genuinely can’t believe the ineptitude of repeating the whole Koeman débâcle all over again. No need to sack a manager that clearly hasn’t lost the players unless you have a better replacement lined up. They’ve knee-jerked after the derby pummelling and idiot Kenwright is treating the whole thing like one of his West End plays as per. Utter shambles.

  128. [QUOTE=”Furey1878, post: 7464172, member: 17236″]
    Shut up lad, any manager could have sleep walked us into the top 10 given the relatively poor quality of the league around us at the time. Just had to win home games against anyone but the top 6.

    Granted, Allardyce did indeed do what he was brought into do, but[B] surrendering games before they even began against better opposition is unforgivable[/B]. We still had opportunities to push for Europe that season yet he continuously bottled away games.

    He’s an odious man who’s a stain on this great club’s history.
    [/QUOTE]
    Moyes got 11 years here doing just that, wakey, wakey soft lad

  129. [QUOTE=”Keiran, post: 7464214, member: 38674″]
    Loud and clear……

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    [/QUOTE]
    Someone REALLY good please.

  130. A few times this season I actually thought he was trying to get sacked, we played that bad and his subs were awful,

  131. [QUOTE=”Lelouch, post: 7464210, member: 49661″]
    we have, BIG DUNC BABY.
    [/QUOTE]
    Untested but interesting at least.

  132. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7464180, member: 32″]
    Disappointed for him and the club, no ones a winner here.
    [/QUOTE]

    You might want to sit down right now.

    But he gets a multi million pound payout, from the club, for being awful at his job.

  133. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7463820, member: 54899″]
    Not only did Sam accomplish what he was brought in to do but we never gave him a chance once he did it. The only thing weird about Sam’s tenure was the ingratitude by a section of the fanbase and Moshiri not being man enough to rise above it
    [/QUOTE]

    throw yourself in the nearest bin

  134. [QUOTE=”chrismpw, post: 7464190, member: 9937″]
    Now PLEASE get someone GOOD.
    [/QUOTE]

    Loud and clear……

    [ATTACH=full]73125[/ATTACH]

  135. [QUOTE=”chrismpw, post: 7464190, member: 9937″]
    Now PLEASE get someone GOOD.
    [/QUOTE]
    we have, BIG DUNC BABY.

  136. [QUOTE=”Eggsyblueskin, post: 7464185, member: 22869″]
    He’s been chased out of more establishments than ours, and the consistent complaints are an obnoxious demeanour coupled with dire football.
    [/QUOTE]
    None had the resources the Mosh boy was offering. He could walk around shouting “heil hitler” if he laced the RS and won something imo

  137. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7464001, member: 54899″]
    Thought that was obvious – if Sam had failed you could have been watching awful defensive minge in the championship
    [/QUOTE]
    Football is still meant to be vaguely entertaining at some point.

  138. [QUOTE=”BigBlueConk, post: 7464051, member: 4236″]
    I dunno lads.

    Hard to judge reactions from strangers on a keyboard.

    This is how I sort of perceived fans reactions to new managers since Moyes left.

    9/10 were in favour of Roberto. At the end 9/10 wanted him out.

    8/10 were in favour of Koeman. At the end 10/10 wanted him out.

    5/10 were in favour of Big Sam. At the end 10/10 wanted him out. For killing football mostly.

    7/10 were in favour of Marco Silva. At the end it seems 10/10 wanted him out.

    As time goes on, we seem to move away from a ‘fans choice’.
    This might be because we are so divided and in some cases fickle, that finding the ideal manager has become impossible.

    Spending multi-millions has proven irrelevant. Mainly because we have overpaid and looked like a bunch of mugs in the transfer market.

    Moyes and Roberto could not have dreamed of the sort of money we have spent since they left.
    I will admit to not knowing who the right man is anymore, but I am sure as hell there are a lot of wrong ones.

    The last 7 years should have been about breaking that top group and staying there.
    We have gone backwards, playing substandard footy and a squad full of mercenaries. So it seems.

    Survive this season. Shrug it off and yet another period or rebuilding ahead. FFS.
    Thanks for nothing Marco.

    Just my view lads.
    [/QUOTE]
    Chels change managers every tuesday but win stuff it’s about resources and it’s become clear we still have relatively little

  139. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7463820, member: 54899″]
    Not only did Sam accomplish what he was brought in to do but we never gave him a chance once he did it. The only thing weird about Sam’s tenure was the ingratitude by a section of the fanbase and Moshiri not being man enough to rise above it
    [/QUOTE]
    He’s been chased out of more establishments than ours, and the consistent complaints are an obnoxious demeanour coupled with dire football.

  140. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7464001, member: 54899″]
    Thought that was obvious – if Sam had failed you could have been [B]watching awful defensive minge[/B] in the championship
    [/QUOTE]

    Sounds like my last date.

  141. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7463820, member: 54899″]
    Not only did Sam accomplish what he was brought in to do but we never gave him a chance once he did it. The only thing weird about Sam’s tenure was the ingratitude by a section of the fanbase and Moshiri not being man enough to rise above it
    [/QUOTE]

    Shut up lad, any manager could have sleep walked us into the top 10 given the relatively poor quality of the league around us at the time. Just had to win home games against anyone but the top 6.

    Granted, Allardyce did indeed do what he was brought into do, but surrendering games before they even began against better opposition is unforgivable. We still had opportunities to push for Europe that season yet he continuously bottled away games.

    He’s an odious man who’s a stain on this great club’s history.

  142. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7463820, member: 54899″]
    Not only did Sam accomplish what he was brought in to do but we never gave him a chance once he did it. The only thing weird about Sam’s tenure was the ingratitude by a section of the fanbase and Moshiri not being man enough to rise above it
    [/QUOTE]

    hahahaha, sorry lad, but that was just too funny…

  143. [QUOTE=”BigBlueConk, post: 7464119, member: 4236″]
    I would take a blind octopus living in a tank in Gibraltar choosing names randomly from a bowl ahead of Silva staying any longer. 🙂
    [/QUOTE]
    There are actually worse options than that being suggested

  144. [QUOTE=”Layne, post: 7464104, member: 11814″]
    I will enjoy the purgatory of being managerless. At least Silva is gone but I fear what dregs we’re looking at to replace him.
    [/QUOTE]

    I would take a blind octopus living in a tank in Gibraltar choosing names randomly from a bowl ahead of Silva staying any longer. 🙂

  145. I will enjoy the purgatory of being managerless. At least Silva is gone but I fear what dregs we’re looking at to replace him.

  146. [QUOTE=”Lob, post: 7464058, member: 17797″]
    [MEDIA=twitter]1202670390126010369[/MEDIA]
    [/QUOTE]
    Walter Smith was actually a better manager

  147. I dunno lads.

    Hard to judge reactions from strangers on a keyboard.

    This is how I sort of perceived fans reactions to new managers since Moyes left.

    9/10 were in favour of Roberto. At the end 9/10 wanted him out.

    8/10 were in favour of Koeman. At the end 10/10 wanted him out.

    5/10 were in favour of Big Sam. At the end 10/10 wanted him out. For killing football mostly.

    7/10 were in favour of Marco Silva. At the end it seems 10/10 wanted him out.

    As time goes on, we seem to move away from a ‘fans choice’.
    This might be because we are so divided and in some cases fickle, that finding the ideal manager has become impossible.

    Spending multi-millions has proven irrelevant. Mainly because we have overpaid and looked like a bunch of mugs in the transfer market.

    Moyes and Roberto could not have dreamed of the sort of money we have spent since they left.
    I will admit to not knowing who the right man is anymore, but I am sure as hell there are a lot of wrong ones.

    The last 7 years should have been about breaking that top group and staying there.
    We have gone backwards, playing substandard footy and a squad full of mercenaries. So it seems.

    Survive this season. Shrug it off and yet another period or rebuilding ahead. FFS.
    Thanks for nothing Marco.

    Just my view lads.

  148. My proudest moment here…a young Portugese guy, first job in the country, hardly spoke a word of English, but he came to me and he went ‘Mr Kenwright, will you be the Godfather to my child?’ Didn’t happen in the end. We had to let him go, he was rubbish.

    HE WAS RUBBBBISH

  149. Right decision as we all know, wish him well in the future. He’s shown self respect, dignity and professionalism over the last ten days. It didn’t work and it’s a shame but let’s not turn bitter towards him

  150. [QUOTE=”LinekersLegs, post: 7463923, member: 24162″]
    Ingratitude – was Sam doing the job for free? [B]Why should I feel grateful for watching awful defensive football every single week?[/B]
    [/QUOTE]
    Thought that was obvious – if Sam had failed you could have been watching awful defensive minge in the championship

  151. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7463820, member: 54899″]
    Not only did Sam accomplish what he was brought in to do but we never gave him a chance once he did it. The only thing weird about Sam’s tenure was the ingratitude by a section of the fanbase and Moshiri not being man enough to rise above it
    [/QUOTE]
    Ingratitude – was Sam doing the job for free? Why should I feel grateful for watching awful defensive football every single week?

  152. He tried his best, it wasn’t good enough.He should never have been appointed in the first place, and we can now consign the Silva era to the history books.Now we need to get the right man as the replacement.The board better get that next decision right.

  153. The poll is still going and probably even more relevant lad’s [MEDIA=twitter]1202548659688235009[/MEDIA]

  154. [QUOTE=”LinekersLegs, post: 7463764, member: 24162″]
    Not a patch on us having Big Sam as manager tbh – still shudder when I think about it!
    [/QUOTE]
    Not only did Sam accomplish what he was brought in to do but we never gave him a chance once he did it. The only thing weird about Sam’s tenure was the ingratitude by a section of the fanbase and Moshiri not being man enough to rise above it

  155. [QUOTE=”kenada_blue, post: 7463397, member: 1052″]
    Wouldn’t say entirely square one as I think the squad is in a lot better position post Martinez.
    [/QUOTE]
    If Bobby had been given the money after his first season to supplement Stones, Barkley, Rom, McCarthy, Barry, Oviedo et al there would be no comparison … obviously, because he’d still be here but you get what I mean

  156. [QUOTE=”Barry Rathbone, post: 7463742, member: 54899″]
    He was never really here he was a lost soul from minute one without a single notable utterance from his Iberian chops and always looking like he had been summoned to the headmasters office suspected of nicking from the tuck shop.

    [B]Deffo one of the weirdest eras in our history[/B]
    [/QUOTE]
    Not a patch on us having Big Sam as manager tbh – still shudder when I think about it!

  157. He was never really here he was a lost soul from minute one without a single notable utterance from his Iberian chops and always looking like he had been summoned to the headmasters office suspected of nicking from the tuck shop.

    Deffo one of the weirdest eras in our history

  158. Even his sacking was drawn out past the point it was interesting.

    God knows who jumps on our managerial merry go round now.

    But good riddance.

  159. [QUOTE=”jceverton, post: 7463255, member: 2345″]
    Correct decision. Now Kenwright, Moshiri et al stay the hell away from appointing the next manager and leave it 100% in Brand’s hands!
    [/QUOTE]
    He is talking to Joey Barton right now!

  160. [QUOTE=”ossie_21, post: 7463629, member: 23492″]
    Surely the wording of the statement rules out Moyes. Bill probably wanted Moyes in the interim but Brands wants a permanent manager for stability, just got to get it right!

    Get Rafa.
    [/QUOTE]

    One can hope.

    It depends what context they mean by permanent. Do they mean ‘long term permanent’ or ‘short term permanent’ due to Ferguson more than likely just being on a game by game basis.

  161. [QUOTE=”Charles Hawtrey, post: 7463225, member: 32390″]
    Actually more like leaving your Bangkok hooker for someone else’s wife.
    [/QUOTE]
    either way it has to be better 🙂

  162. [QUOTE=”Rob17896, post: 7463605, member: 36790″]
    Hmmmmm? Not too sure about that.
    [/QUOTE]

    It doesn’t have Bolasie, Rooney, and Williams in it.

    Therefore a lot better.

  163. Surely the wording of the statement rules out Moyes. Bill probably wanted Moyes in the interim but Brands wants a permanent manager for stability, just got to get it right!

    Get Rafa.

  164. [QUOTE=”kenada_blue, post: 7463397, member: 1052″]
    Wouldn’t say entirely square one as I think the squad is in a lot better position post Martinez.
    [/QUOTE]
    Hmmmmm? Not too sure about that.

  165. [QUOTE=”LinekersLegs, post: 7463531, member: 24162″]
    Never being able to win a game when we fell behind indicated a huge issue with either tactics or team motivation – probably both.

    Hopefully Silva gets some rest and in time a deal at a new club where he can start afresh with a few lessons under his belt.
    [/QUOTE]

    And dealing with set pieces.

    Bottom line is that he had faults in his own style of management. Add to that the injuries, the inability to adapt, and lack of goals, he was sinking and couldn’t get himself out of it which started on his principles.

    He was out of his depth.

  166. [QUOTE=”Rogue Trader, post: 7463502, member: 14138″]
    Well you’re leaving picking the next manager to him. I’d have a serious issue with that given his track record on transfers. .
    [/QUOTE]
    It’s his job! We know that Kenwright and Moshiri haven’t got a clue. Who’d you suggest is in charge of the decision?!

  167. [QUOTE=”T LEAFE, post: 7463486, member: 6143″]
    I disagree but I’m too tired and fed up to argue it.
    The current squad is riddled with rubbish
    [/QUOTE]

    Less rubbish than Koeman’s squad.

  168. [QUOTE=”Gilbert.., post: 7463199, member: 51827″]
    Back to square one. 18 months wasted as he should never even been considered for the job.
    [/QUOTE]
    I think it’s worse than this.
    I think the money for the project has gone.
    Christ knows about the new ground.

  169. [QUOTE=”Daveysgingerlovechild, post: 7463478, member: 23149″]
    Aye, I’ll give him his dues as he did try (trying 3-5-2 for example) and had some rotten luck with injuries. But by and large got it badly wrong tactically. It’s not necessarily the shape, it’s how far we pushed forward with slow centre backs, had players Ill suited to a high press, or just failed to manage games in both winning and losing positions.

    Bye.
    [/QUOTE]
    Never being able to win a game when we fell behind indicated a huge issue with either tactics or team motivation – probably both.

    Hopefully Silva gets some rest and in time a deal at a new club where he can start afresh with a few lessons under his belt.

  170. [QUOTE=”jceverton, post: 7463474, member: 2345″]
    Who said I was excusing him?!
    [/QUOTE]

    Well you’re leaving picking the next manager to him. I’d have a serious issue with that given his track record on transfers. .

  171. Wondering if there was clause in Silva’s contract, that if he went into the relegation zone, they would pay out less money in the termination.
    If so, fair play.

  172. [QUOTE=”kenada_blue, post: 7463397, member: 1052″]
    Wouldn’t say entirely square one as I think the squad is in a lot better position post Martinez.
    [/QUOTE]
    I disagree but I’m too tired and fed up to argue it.
    The current squad is riddled with rubbish

  173. [QUOTE=”LinekersLegs, post: 7463231, member: 24162″]
    Unlike either Big Sam or Koeman I feel a tad sorry for him as he appeared a decent bloke but he clearly was in way over his head and hadn’t got a clue how to fix things, especially our defense or game management.

    Now just have to nervously wait to see who his replacement is..,
    [/QUOTE]

    Aye, I’ll give him his dues as he did try (trying 3-5-2 for example) and had some rotten luck with injuries. But by and large got it badly wrong tactically. It’s not necessarily the shape, it’s how far we pushed forward with slow centre backs, had players Ill suited to a high press, or just failed to manage games in both winning and losing positions.

    Bye.

  174. [QUOTE=”Rogue Trader, post: 7463277, member: 14138″]
    How can anyone excuse Brand’s part in this joke?
    [/QUOTE]
    Who said I was excusing him?!

  175. [QUOTE=”Gilbert.., post: 7463199, member: 51827″]
    Back to square one. 18 months wasted as he should never even been considered for the job.
    [/QUOTE]

    Wouldn’t say entirely square one as I think the squad is in a lot better position post Martinez.

  176. Don’t feel any sense of happiness , relief or anything.. just sad we have another failed manager effort to restore the team to the top.

    He had it tough this year losing the players he did with injuries and transfers.. but showed he isn’t up to it. This wasn’t his first difficult period and many other clubs would have given him the boot last season already… as I said in the official thread.. too many lows .. this had gone on too long.

    I genuinely don’t know what will bring back my joy for the club.. I almost don’t care who we bring.. the road is going to be tough till we get a chance to reset … troubling times

  177. [QUOTE=”jceverton, post: 7463255, member: 2345″]
    Correct decision. Now Kenwright, Moshiri et al stay the hell away from appointing the next manager and leave it 100% in Brand’s hands!
    [/QUOTE]

    How can anyone excuse Brand’s part in this joke?

  178. [QUOTE=”Gilbert.., post: 7463199, member: 51827″]
    Back to square one. 18 months wasted as he should never even been considered for the job.
    [/QUOTE]
    Should not be with a director of football…

  179. [QUOTE=”coollino, post: 7463249, member: 13195″]
    Yea it’s a bit odd. He has only won 32 PL games so I’m not sure what Everton were expecting.
    [/QUOTE]

    The new Pochettino. That’s what people thought he could be.

  180. [QUOTE=”T LEAFE, post: 7463149, member: 6143″]
    Now sack the players
    [/QUOTE]

    It would be nice if we could sack some of the players. Sigurdsson and Keane first out.

  181. Correct decision. Now Kenwright, Moshiri et al stay the hell away from appointing the next manager and leave it 100% in Brand’s hands!

  182. [QUOTE=”LinekersLegs, post: 7463231, member: 24162″]
    Unlike either Big Sam or Koeman I feel a tad sorry for him as he appeared a decent bloke but he clearly was in way over his head and hadn’t got a clue how to fix things, especially our defense or game management.

    Now just have to nervously wait to see who his replacement is..,
    [/QUOTE]

    Yea it’s a bit odd. He has only won 32 PL games so I’m not sure what Everton were expecting.

  183. Sad that it came to this, but had to happen. Was not the man for the job, and couldn’t continue this way anymore. No one can say he wasnt backed by the board, either financially or timewise. He had plenty of opportunities to turn it round but was unable to. Best thing for all parties.

  184. Unlike either Big Sam or Koeman I feel a tad sorry for him as he appeared a decent bloke but he clearly was in way over his head and hadn’t got a clue how to fix things, especially our defense or game management.

    Now just have to nervously wait to see who his replacement is..,

  185. [QUOTE=”Maltese_Falcon, post: 7463215, member: 14503″]
    If we hire Moyes now it would be like leaving your wife for a retired Bangkok hooker !
    [/QUOTE]

    *fixed

  186. [QUOTE=”Maltese_Falcon, post: 7463215, member: 14503″]
    If we hire Moyes now it would be like leaving your wife for a Bangkok hooker !
    [/QUOTE]
    But when your wife looks like mo mowlam a bangkok hooker might be a good thing.

  187. [QUOTE=”Maltese_Falcon, post: 7463215, member: 14503″]
    If we hire Moyes now it would be like leaving your wife for a Bangkok hooker !
    [/QUOTE]
    Actually more like leaving your Bangkok hooker for someone else’s wife.

  188. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7463053, member: 1″]
    [URL=’https://www.grandoldteam.com/2019/12/05/marco-silva-sacked/’]Continue reading…[/URL]
    [/QUOTE]

    All in here please mate
    [URL unfurl=”true”]https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/silva-sacked-official-thread.108853/[/URL]

  189. ‘‘Tis better to have loved and lost, than to spend the entire football season in complete misery.”

    So long Mr Forgettable x

  190. During the last three years in England he’ll have trousered £15 million quid – no tears here.

  191. Can’t say I take any pleasure from his sacking as it means we failed again,but he wasnt the man to take us forward,we had no style of play,rarely played a full 90 minutes and he made bad substitutions,I wish him luck where ever he goes next

  192. Double edged sword this.

    I’m pleased he’s gone. Nice bloke but he was clearly out of his depth and couldn’t come up with any answers to halt this horror run, however, the thought of Moyes returning utterly sickens me.

    Worst time to be a Blue since the week leading up to that Coventry game back in 1998.

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