William Carvalho

[BNJ1878]

We have (it seems)

• an extremely well respected DoF
• a young manager who has managed the player before
• two previous managers who kept a close eye on the player, one of which seemingly made an offer.

We also have a sizeable number of experts who post here stating he's too slow and crap.

Can anybody suggest which set of experts have the worthwhile experience and actual knowledge of what makes a good player?

 

[BNJ1878]

Rather play Beni.

Don't get me wrong, he looks classy and can pass but he moves like a fridge.

Yes because he's completely proved himself at the top level. Definitely a far better option than an international player with vast experience in domestic and European competition.

That's not a slight on Beni by the way. He doesn't move like a fridge, I'll grant you that. We don't however know if he's "classy" as opposed to "promising."

 

[hktoffee]

Rather play Beni.

Don't get me wrong, he looks classy and can pass but he moves like a fridge.

Beni is a kid. William is a proven international...though.

 

[ilikecheese]

Yes because he's completely proved himself at the top level. Definitely a far better option than an international player with vast experience in domestic and European competition.

That's not a slight on Beni by the way. He doesn't move like a fridge, I'll grant you that. We don't however know if he's "classy" as opposed to "promising."

International football is weird though.

Brian Ruiz still looks like a player for Costa Rica.*

*he was one of their best players in qualifying...I will be sleeping during CR's first game...I will add Joel Campbell as well just for fun

 

[BNJ1878]

Agree with you there, it throws up some odd players/performances that don't always translate to the Premier League.

 

[Lowste]

Beni is a kid. William is a proven international...though.

So is Ashley Williams

 

[Toffee-nerd]

Isn't he a free agent anyway now? Sure he'll cost us in signing on and wages but if he's a free and Silva and brands want him then why not.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Watched him for the first time against Spain when concentrating solely on his performance, and was surprised how much of the game passed him by. I think he only touched it twice in the first 20 mins having spent the whole time jogging round a 30 yard space in front of the back 4.

Spain and their midfield is probably the worst team to judge him against as they would make most players look lethargic.

After the first 20 his contribution did improve somewhat. When out of possession he patrols space rather than players denying that space to the oppisitiion. His positioning and reading of the game more than make up for his lack of pace. He has the vision and passing ability to turn defence into attack very quickly and in other games I've seen him control games when Portugal dominate possession.

He is clearly a very good player, extremely experienced and would allow Silva to play different formations were we to buy him.

Having said that, I don't think I've ever seen a less "Everton" type footballer. His one paced style is almost comical at times and the Goodison crowd will absolutely slaughter him. He will become the bext Osman/Barkely/Williams rolled into 1.

Hd will improve the team performance I've no doubt, but large sections of our crowd wont see that. They"ll just see the perceived lack of effort, even when we're doing well.

I hope we dont buy him. I'd rather we bought a btb type midfielder anyhow but this guy will end up slaughtered almost to the extent of ridicule if he came hete.

 

[hktoffee]

So is Ashley Williams

Carvalho is a starter for a team ranked 4th in FIFA and had won Euro 2016. Did you mean AW is the same?

 

[Who's_up_for_cumpkins?]

Think the main concern with this move is if he plays as the pivot he needs legs around him and pace. In a 3 gana would work, Davies possibly but there's little creativity there.

Also it poses the question where does gylfi play as we assume silva wants to play proper fast wingers. So lookman and Walcott.

You could play gylfi in the 3 in midfield but although he's not a slouch it's not the most mobile 3 and would put a lot of emphasis on gana doing all the ball winning.

Reckon doucoure or similar pacey box to box player would work better. Him and gana would rotate I.e one sits the other presses and gylfi can rotate between playing number 10 and dropping into a flat 3 depending on the offensive defensive flow of the game.

 

[Bluebonic]

Whether you rate this lad or not, think him classy or not, surely you all have to admit that if we had two or three poor results the crowd would turn on him? For that reason alone, leave him where he is!

 

[COYBL25]

We have (it seems)

• an extremely well respected DoF
• a young manager who has managed the player before
• two previous managers who kept a close eye on the player, one of which seemingly made an offer.

We also have a sizeable number of experts who post here stating he's too slow and crap.

Can anybody suggest which set of experts have the worthwhile experience and actual knowledge of what makes a good player?

The experts on here of course and primarily our super expert @Zatara lol

 

[Moomin]

He moves like the Kraken from the 80's movie " Clash of Titans "

 

[hallamblue]

The main thing our team lacks is pace, and he won't solve that issue.

 

[kenada_blue]

Yes because he's completely proved himself at the top level. Definitely a far better option than an international player with vast experience in domestic and European competition.

That's not a slight on Beni by the way. He doesn't move like a fridge, I'll grant you that. We don't however know if he's "classy" as opposed to "promising."

Maybe I'm alluding to some doubts about it being another player we'll be paying top wages for.

Stung last summer. I'm over cautious.