Why can't we beat the ****e at Anfield?

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Unfortunately, we also seem to be up against lady luck herself!

We have had nothing given our way in recent years. Sending offs, cards, offsides injuries etc. It always seems to go the RS way. (the suarez goal last match was after a foul on Jags so should never has stood anyway).

Im not saying it's a conspiracy just fu ckin bad luck.
 
Our record of late under DM is very poor, & his cautious tactics do not help , but in fairness its always been a bogey ground for us, I seen us out play then twice when we won 2-0 in the 1969/70 championship side 2-0 stood in the KOP as a kid, boy did I enjoy that performance passed them off the park even the Kopite's were admiring the way we passed the ball we had a midfield of shear class TBH the whole team was class! Then at later game at Anfield a few seasons later, I went to a game there we were 2-0 up with 15 minutes left some of their fans left the Kop as we were far the better team - a certain Tony Hateley nodded 2 goals in as many minutes & the goal scoring fullback Chris Lawler got the winner in the last minutes - devastated blue fans were crying that day as I walked out of the ground I was just fuming, to dominate a game , & throw it away that's football a certain young unknown Steve Highway tore Sandy Brown to bits he may have come on as a sub,{ not sure} but it changed a certain victory into a defeat -boy I hate them!
 
A combination of two factors. For them it has increasingly become the biggest game of their season. Gerrard and Carragher have lost the consistency to perform for 38 games but play like men possessed whenever Man U or Everton come to Anfield. Its no surprise that some of the tems that have own there in recent seasons are very poor. It is the vestiges of their arrogance that lead to complacency and a poor performance. Lesser teams also have the option of playing 11 behind the ball, frustrating a poor Liverpool side and hoping to nick one. In the 90s under Royle this was us, Liverpool were the biggest game of our season, we always got up for it, for them it was just another game and someitmes they got complacent.

Now the tables have turned, Moyes has drilled in an attitude of trying to perform the same way every game to bring us greater league consistency against the lesser sides. I genuinely don't believe that he sees this Liverpool team as he saw them when he first came in. He sees them as a team worse than us, as a game that somehow requires controlling with a preformulated plan, he tries to take a 'big club' attitude towards the match. For us they are just another game in our run in for Europe, not even the most important out that lot. Moyes doesn't seem to realise that that approach is the wrong one to take to a derby and that they can never be controlled. I wish he'd approach it more like the City games where he seems to have a special big game formula that has us as the under dog able to shock the bigger team. As it is I've lost count of the times we've been at Goodison or Anfield passing it round bossing the game only for them to sit back and defend soak up pressure then hit us with sucker punches. I still can't believe the 2009/10 derbies were we battered them home and away and lost both and even the one at Goodison this season where they parked the bus. We alow them to play like that because we are better but not better by enough like a Man U are that have the quality to break down their mass defense. Basically they're the worse team for us to play because they play the stupid defensive counter attacking stuff familiar to the relegation teams we struggle to break down but have a bit of quality upfront to hurst us on the break. The rest of the top 10 actually play football which is why we tend to fare well against them as our ball players can play rather than being monstered by 10 defenders whenever they get near the 18 yard box.

The second reason is an inherent bias towards the RS that has existed since the dawn of time and has robbed us of countless results home and away against that shower. In smaller games at Anfield refs aren't bothered. In the big games they'll sometimes gift it to Man U. In big games against us we'll invariably never get anything.
 
I think a positive spin on the statistics are needed.

In our last 10 visits to Anfield we have drawn six and lost four - 60% of the time they do not beat us, an away draw at a team that has in all but two of those occasions finished above us in the table is a moral victory. Maybe the thread title should be Why don't the sh1te beat us more often at Anfield?

In two of the four defeats we finished the match with 10 men on the pitch, so in the last 10 attempts they have only beaten us twice when its 11 v 11 - So forget about bottling it or bad tactics, keeping 11 men on the park for 90 minutes is the first thing we need to do.
 
I think a positive spin on the statistics are needed.

In our last 10 visits to Anfield we have drawn six and lost four - 60% of the time they do not beat us, an away draw at a team that has in all but two of those occasions finished above us in the table is a moral victory. Maybe the thread title should be Why don't the sh1te beat us more often at Anfield?

In two of the four defeats we finished the match with 10 men on the pitch, so in the last 10 attempts they have only beaten us twice when its 11 v 11 - So forget about bottling it or bad tactics, keeping 11 men on the park for 90 minutes is the first thing we need to do.

There's nothing positive about 6 points out of 30 away at your local rivals. If we were content with that i'd be very concerned.
 
Neville will score an own goal, Pienaar get sent off or Hibbert commit a penalty or something along those lines. It always happens. I agree that it seems that the game is lost before kick-off.

I do fear the pace and trickery of Sewer Rat and Gerrard. But Carra in defense is wonderful for Mirallas.
 
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Someone earlier mentioned that they have 1 world class player and us 2. This is where we kid ourselves a little bit I think.

Baines is one of the best in the world in his position but then there's only so much he can do from left back. Fellaini is very good, but not world class in my opinion.

Suarez challenges the Philpott parents for the title of the most vile human being in the World but he's one of the very best strikers there is. To score the amount of goals he has in a largely ****e team is incredible. Gerrard may be tailing off now but he too was genuine world class. Its a cliche but Those 2 win games on their own, and more often than not they turn up for the big games too
 
Someone earlier mentioned that they have 1 world class player and us 2. This is where we kid ourselves a little bit I think.

Baines is one of the best in the world in his position but then there's only so much he can do from left back. Fellaini is very good, but not world class in my opinion.

Suarez challenges the Philpott parents for the title of the most vile human being in the World but he's one of the very best strikers there is. To score the amount of goals he has in a largely ****e team is incredible. Gerrard may be tailing off now but he too was genuine world class. Its a cliche but Those 2 win games on their own, and more often than not they turn up for the big games too
Could not agree more.
 

David Moyes


Surely Moyes has to be a major factor, given the abilities of the various rs teams he's been up against, and the amount of attempts to win he's had, he should be embarrassed by his record there.

David Moyes has a inferiority complex. It's simple really.

http://www.bsmi.org/download/lin/InferiorityComplex.pdf

"Know thyself, accept yourself, and be yourself"

We've won 6 times there in the last 42 years: 1999, 1995, 1987, 1986, 1984, 1970 (thanks to whoever gave that stat in another thread). So I don't see how Moyes could possibly be responsible; it's something that's been an issue for us for over 40 years for us now.
 
We've won 6 times there in the last 42 years: 1999, 1995, 1987, 1986, 1984, 1970 (thanks to whoever gave that stat in another thread). So I don't see how Moyes could possibly be responsible; it's something that's been an issue for us for over 40 years for us now.

Are you comparing the liverpool team of houllier, benitez and rodgers with the liverpool team of shankly and paisley?
 
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