Why can't we beat the ****e at Anfield?

[Phenom]

No, not blame - its easy to blame him. I think he needs to be responsible for ensuring the players approach the game better ( because they obviously don't )

Sure we had drenthe ruin one, pienaar ruin one, big, big games, literally the night before?

These sort of things don't help, and that's HIS responsibility to ensure it doesn't effect the teams preparation.

The Drenthe one, we smashed them for 45 mins only to **** ourselves second half.

 

[AlexEFC92]

I remember when Beckford put us 2-1 up and then Howard fouled Kuyt to win them a penalty...

 

[Brennan]

royston how old r you ??

How many league wins at Anfield before Moyes ?

5 in 39 years.

Lets not pretend he's got some terrible record compared to past history, because he hasn't.

 

[AlexEFC92]

How many league wins at Anfield before Moyes ?

5 in 39 years.

Lets not pretend he's got some terrible record compared to past history, because he hasn't.

I still think there is no excuse seeing the lower teams who have owned them over the years there.

 

[thebluefox]

How many league wins at Anfield before Moyes ?

5 in 39 years.

Lets not pretend he's got some terrible record compared to past history, because he hasn't.

i never asked that ye geoff i asked how old r you

 

[thebluefox]

I remember when Beckford put us 2-1 up and then Howard fouled Kuyt to win them a penalty...

moyes then brought him off ,and brought hibbert on

 

[Deleted member 28206]

moyes then brought him off ,and brought hibbert on

Bingo.

 

[Maestro Haze]

If we have everyone available I don't see how we should do worse than we did last year.

Maybe it's playing at Anfield, maybe it Moyes. But there might be this defeatist attitude a week leading into the game. Or that the s***e always raise their game, like we do against Man City.

I think this year will be different, hopefully.

 

[Bluenose1995]

problem is like against Utd they raise their game and get at us problem is we dont which I suspect is down to moyes trying to play down the size of the match which instead Moyes should be giving the players the siege mentality- tell them the media are against us and the Kopites thinking they can walk over us, slap them and tell them they need to tear them apart, not give them an inch, be in their face, make every challenge THATS how to win a derby now come on Moyes give it em

 

[AlexEFC92]

problem is like against Utd they raise their game and get at us problem is we dont which I suspect is down to moyes trying to play down the size of the match which instead Moyes should be giving the players the siege mentality- tell them the media are against us and the Kopites thinking they can walk over us, slap them and tell them they need to tear them apart, not give them an inch, be in their face, make every challenge THATS how to win a derby now come on Moyes give it em

I wish Moyes would read this thread now.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

It's not about raising the game, it's about mentally preparing.

Be honest, how many of you actually bought we would lose v city? No, not many. This is my point is that we can be positively primed to approach a game of the kind which reminds us of the quality we have!

Liverpool are ****, we should be playing them off the pitch!

 

[TippEverton]

If we have everyone available I don't see how we should do worse than we did last year.

Maybe it's playing at Anfield, maybe it Moyes. But there might be this defeatist attitude a week leading into the game. Or that the s***e always raise their game, like we do against Man City.

I think this year will be different, hopefully.

We cant possibly do worse than that, can we?

Actually I don't think its possible.

 

[ToffeeDan]

14 years - as long as 1970-1984 was.

Anyway it's mostly because we've been too worked up in the past 3-4 years, when we should realise we are at least their equal, to just treat it as another game. When we were vastly inferior to them (let's be honest just about every year bar 1985-1988 since the 1970 title winning side) we really had two chances (in reality just the one, at Goodison) to give their all-singing all-dancing winning side a bloody nose. So we invariably went at it like a bull in a gate to give them a hard time. Once in a while it actually worked.

I don't have a problem with treating a better side this way - give it 100% and see where it takes you. It never was much use for our mid-table journeymen (in the past) to take this match as just another game. Now however we are, at the very least, their equal - and in the past two or three seasons better than them. So a new strategy is required where we have to cope with their desire to put one over us and find a way (as they used to) of playing our own game and establishing control. I can barely remember us going to The Pit and being the better side (maybe 2 or 3 times in the past 20 odd years). So it's time to take it as another game and give them what they deserve - a bloody good hiding.

 

[Maestro Haze]

It's not about raising the game, it's about mentally preparing.

Be honest, how many of you actually bought we would lose v city? No, not many. This is my point is that we can be positively primed to approach a game of the kind which reminds us of the quality we have!

Liverpool are ****, we should be playing them off the pitch!

True mate, but tactics are a big part of it. Can we manage to counter theirs? I haven't seen it. But with Mirallas in our team, I think we've got a great chance. He showed that in October, before he got stood on by rat face, and I believed we would of won it if he didn't go off.

Having every one fit and available is key.. So hopefully Pienaar or Fellaini don't do something stupid the game before. Because it always seems to happen to us.

 

[Bluenose1995]

It's not about raising the game, it's about mentally preparing.

Be honest, how many of you actually bought we would lose v city? No, not many. This is my point is that we can be positively primed to approach a game of the kind which reminds us of the quality we have!

Liverpool are ****, we should be playing them off the pitch!

We need the siege mentality mate, we beat citeh because of IMO they tried to take the piss over the lescott deal, add to that Mancini and moyes having a scrap and him saying Rodders left to a team that can win trophies has given us that mentality of wanting to **** them, same when Suarez did that celebration infront of Moyes he fired the lads up but we need Moyes to do that same thing in the dressing room make them angry, make them want to destroy them, but instead he plays it down I remember when he was asked were we favourites for one of the derby games recently and he said no, he should be saying yes how we have the quality and how we will get right up them thats the attitude we need.