Why are the English so uncreative?

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as for creativity on the sportsfield, well thats been trained out of them as the coaches want players who can execute set plays in a technical way, none of this off the cuff stuff that is considered to be 'risky'. imagine us losing the world cup final on pens because some 'maverik' decides to do a fancy arsed penalty that the goalie saves, he'd be putting his whole family at risk so is more likely to stick a hoof behind it as thats more acceptable to us.

the nail that sticks out must be hammered down.
 
Since when have Sport and Twitter been the pinnacle of creativity?

If so, it maybe worth adding that an English mind invented the sport mentioned in this thread (football and cricket) and not to mention the computer. Thats more creative than a football celebration or indeed, a website fad.

More recently? The ipod, iphone, imac etc.

I find it astounding to suggest that English people are naturally uncreative.
 
Since when have Sport and Twitter been the pinnacle of creativity?

If so, it maybe worth adding that an English mind invented the sport mentioned in this thread (football and cricket) and not to mention the computer. Thats more creative than a football celebration or indeed, a website fad.

More recently? The ipod, iphone, imac etc.

I find it astounding to suggest that English people are naturally uncreative.

i know, it lacks imagination and creativity.

dont forget tha industrial revolution as well danny, in fact lets claim all the glory for our region instead of England.
in terms of inventions and production techniques that have driven the world, the north-west is one of the most important if not THE most important region on the globe.
 
i know, it lacks imagination and creativity.

dont forget tha industrial revolution as well danny, in fact lets claim all the glory for our region instead of England.
in terms of inventions and production techniques that have driven the world, the north-west is one of the most important if not THE most important region on the globe.


The context in which Bruce posed the thread made me believe that artists like Hogarth, Constable, Turner, Hockney and so many others were obvious. Our history is littered with great works of literature from Shakepeare, keats and Browning to Blyton Dahl and Potter The pop world followed what this country did not just in music, fashion and design but in theatre, art and society. The point I was trying to make is given the correct circumstance we can create anything.......................trouble is that we can also destroy the correct circumstance and that must stop............ untrue to say that we are uncreative far from having been world leaders there is no reason we can't be again
 
Since when have Sport and Twitter been the pinnacle of creativity?

If so, it maybe worth adding that an English mind invented the sport mentioned in this thread (football and cricket) and not to mention the computer. Thats more creative than a football celebration or indeed, a website fad.

More recently? The ipod, iphone, imac etc.

I find it astounding to suggest that English people are naturally uncreative.

The computer was designed by von Neumman I believe, although Turing played a huge role. Turing himself though is indicative of this isn't he? I mean the man killed himself due to the stigma he suffered for being different! Moving forward 70 years and Britain has little place in the computer industry. Microchips are dominated by Intel and AMD, although ARM deserve mention for their work in mobile chips. Networking is dominated by Cisco. Software by MS. The web by Google. The world of computing now revolves around California. It's certainly not Britain.

Electronics is still dominated by the Japanese. The iPhone etc. were designed by a Brit, who's working in America. It wasn't designed in Britain. Of the big companies we have, Vodafone have perhaps the best place in their industry but even then the real change is delivered by Nokia and the hardware suppliers in Scandinavia. Where we have shown creativity is in the finance industry and the City is the leading financial centre in the world. But that's it. There isn't another major industry that we dominate.

It's possible. I mean F1 is a fine example. The majority of teams are based in Britain and we lead the field in that small field. Why has that not spread elsewhere? What is F1 doing that other sectors aren't? It's been mentioned that we were great 150 years ago in the industrial revolution, and we were, but that was long ago. Now the world is changed by America or Asian nations.

I say again, what British startup has gone on to dominate its field in the past decade?
 
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The computer was designed by von Neumman I believe, although Turing played a huge role. Turing himself though is indicative of this isn't he? I mean the man killed himself due to the stigma he suffered for being different! Moving forward 70 years and Britain has little place in the computer industry. Microchips are dominated by Intel and AMD, although ARM deserve mention for their work in mobile chips. Networking is dominated by Cisco. Software by MS. The web by Google. The world of computing now revolves around California. It's certainly not Britain.

Electronics is still dominated by the Japanese. The iPhone etc. were designed by a Brit, who's working in America. It wasn't designed in Britain. Of the big companies we have, Vodafone have perhaps the best place in their industry but even then the real change is delivered by Nokia and the hardware suppliers in Scandinavia. Where we have shown creativity is in the finance industry and the City is the leading financial centre in the world. But that's it. There isn't another major industry that we dominate.

It's possible. I mean F1 is a fine example. The majority of teams are based in Britain and we lead the field in that small field. Why has that not spread elsewhere? What is F1 doing that other sectors aren't? It's been mentioned that we were great 150 years ago in the industrial revolution, and we were, but that was long ago. Now the world is changed by America or Asian nations.

I say again, what British startup has gone on to dominate its field in the past decade?


If you thread had been head 'lost opportuites' mate then I would have agreed....................that said it all goes back to lack of vision and investment............politicians and certainly bankers not prepared to take risks, our leaders have found it easier to close business's than expand. We still create but these days investment is that much harder to come across.............a bit like EFC really
 
You woulda got bashed if it wasnt for us.

Heres what we have invented...

The Box Kite
Differential gears
Permaculture
The Granny Smith Apple
The combine Harvester
Dynamic Lifter
The ScramJet Engine
Inflatable escape Shutes on Airplanes
Cement Mixing Trucks
The Hills Hoist
The Electric Drill
The two stroke Lawn Mower
Insect Repellant
The Garage Roller Door
Pre Paid Postage
Plastic Bank Notes (We make Currency here for 18 countries)
The Refrigerator
The Wine Cask
Instant Hot Water Heater
The Secret Ballot
The Pacemaker
The Bionic Ear
Asprin in a tablet
Spray on Skin for burn victims
Uniloc Software (when you buy trial software, then when you buy the full version you get registration key- yep we invented that)
Wifi Internet
Google Maps
The Fairlight (music sampler)
The very first Feature Motion Picture
Freestyle Swimming (or the Australian Crawl)
Speedo swimwear
The winged Keel
X-RAY Crystallography
The dual flush Toilet

And most controversially

Sometimes , McB , you make it so-o-o-o easy , cocka .

Freestyle Swimming , eh ??? Thank fuk , for that !!!
And the Garage Roller door , ...2 stroke Lawn Mower , ...

DAMN !!!
 
Sometimes , McB , you make it so-o-o-o easy , cocka .

Freestyle Swimming , eh ??? Thank fuk , for that !!!
And the Garage Roller door , ...2 stroke Lawn Mower , ...

DAMN !!!


If we had the crocs they've got we'd be much better free style swimmers.................as you say LCAB he is too easy mate
 
You must admit though, that when it comes to posting photos of fit birds, McB is numero 1. dominating the field with humiliating ease.
I can't post photos of anything coz I'm useless on the computer. Some of you however, are very nifty at changing your avatar and stuff but can't find time to lighten our hearts with visions of pure beauty like Macca does. Ashamed to be British me.
 
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