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barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
Silva was the obvious one.
A little naive, but he actually had us playing some great football in stages. I personally think he mentally couldn’t recover from the Pickford blunder in the Derby, and lost all our momentum from there, when in reality, we should have won.
Everyone else was just the wrong appointment.
A little naive, but he actually had us playing some great football in stages. I personally think he mentally couldn’t recover from the Pickford blunder in the Derby, and lost all our momentum from there, when in reality, we should have won.
Everyone else was just the wrong appointment.
Lampard was poor at Derby , and abysmal at Chelsea despite spending a fortune.
Silva is doing well at Fulham, he was sacked by Watford after we tried to get him. Ended up with Big Sam, who got us to 8th all be it with some very dia football. Then Silva came in the Summer.
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
Koeman failed at Valencia, Barca, PSV
Silva is a good manager
Benitez really didn’t do well at Newcastle, as shown by Bruce, who outperformed him. He had the fans won over by fighting with Ashley.
Lampard took derby to 6th from 6th, and built a Chelsea side that were 10th at Sackinf and ended up winning the CL, so maybe it’s the wrong appointments.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £90m
It's obviously Silva. He wasn't even doing that poorly when we sacked him and was unlucky to be where he was. We were probably going to end up Midvale but that wouldn't have been the end of the world. His time at Fulham pretty much confirms he's a decent manager and the only one we've had since Moyes.
Defo Silva
Let down by transfers, and Moshiri publicly going after Zaha and then giving him Iwobi
He wanted to play a certain way but was not given the right players.
His head went massively though and he looked awful
Let down by transfers, and Moshiri publicly going after Zaha and then giving him Iwobi
He wanted to play a certain way but was not given the right players.
His head went massively though and he looked awful
Can't agree more with this...any manager can only be as good as the squad he is given...recruitment team is really the thing that matters. Our recruitment team has been playing fifa manager like a 2 year old burning money like there is no tomorrow
toffee-L
Player Valuation: £20m
Silva should never have been appointed, it was far too early for him. He'd been relegated at Hull, despite giving their season a shot in the arm and didn't even make it until Christmas I don't think at Watford the next season.
He'd definitely be a legitimate candidate of interest now because his body of work at Fulham has been very impressive, but just because he's rebuilt himself doesn't mean we weren't justified in sacking him before. We were hurtling at break-neck speed into a relegation battle and just been clobbered at Anfield, he absolutely had to go. Poor bloke looked like he was living out the boot of his car by the end.
The only person we've canned who can have any grievance at all is Gravy Tits, though I don't look back at his time with any fondness or regret that we told him to do one. He was only ever a short term appointment and hadn't demonstrated that he was capable of building a side into European contenders since his Bolton days, he had no business being Everton manager at all.
He'd definitely be a legitimate candidate of interest now because his body of work at Fulham has been very impressive, but just because he's rebuilt himself doesn't mean we weren't justified in sacking him before. We were hurtling at break-neck speed into a relegation battle and just been clobbered at Anfield, he absolutely had to go. Poor bloke looked like he was living out the boot of his car by the end.
The only person we've canned who can have any grievance at all is Gravy Tits, though I don't look back at his time with any fondness or regret that we told him to do one. He was only ever a short term appointment and hadn't demonstrated that he was capable of building a side into European contenders since his Bolton days, he had no business being Everton manager at all.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Sam was, Silva is now perhaps with hindsight, but at the time there was reason.
At the time we sacked Sam it was an absolutely ridiculous idea and sums up what a nightmare Moshiri is.
He had one season left on his contract I believe, 12 months, he easy could of seen that out.
Sacking a nanager who comes 8th was the start of this
At the time we sacked Sam it was an absolutely ridiculous idea and sums up what a nightmare Moshiri is.
He had one season left on his contract I believe, 12 months, he easy could of seen that out.
Sacking a nanager who comes 8th was the start of this
We’ve tried different type of managers, the problem is really on the players. When our new manager arrive, the players will put in effort for 2 games and revert back to their lazy form. The manager cycle continues.
Black Belt Jones
Player Valuation: £20m
No one liked Koeman, and he shat the bed so badly start of season 2 that sacking him was easy. But that feels like the start of the international [Poor language removed] circus that's since taken place in our dugout. We were still miles ahead of the dross in the league (unlike now) and should have kept him to straighten things out - it would have sucked, because it's writing the season off, but we would have finished in the same place as we did anyhow but with one guy in charge and some continuity and maybe some problems fixed. We completely swerve the Allardyce embarrassment, and the board gets to show some backbone and not needlessly panic in the face of adversity.
End of the day though no one likes Koeman so it's not something you can really say was a big mistake, because long term there was nothing down for him. But it was an early reveal that the board were weak and a portent of things to come.
End of the day though no one likes Koeman so it's not something you can really say was a big mistake, because long term there was nothing down for him. But it was an early reveal that the board were weak and a portent of things to come.
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
You can't convince me that we'd be any better off as a club if we'd stuck with any of these managers. The only one there's an argument for is BFS simply because he only had one more year on his contract and we probably would've been better off sticking with him for that while looking for a real long-term solution. The rest of them? Absolutely not. It wasn't sacking them that was the issue. It was hiring them in the first place when we as a club had absolutely no real faith in the vision these managers had for us. You can't convince me that the clubs hierarchy where ever fully behind any of them. How could they be? How can you be fully committed to the vision of Martinez but then go to Koeman? How can you honestly buy into a Koeman and then get behind a Silva? It's just nonsense, almost like a kid on fifa manager throwing his hands up every single time something goes wrong and saying "well that didn't work so let's do a 180 and try this!".
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
It’s absolutely the players.
They’ve downed tools for 6-7 managers now. But this feels different, I don’t think they’re not trying here, they look genuinely lost out there.
They don’t seem to have a clue what they’re doing, whereas under Benitez and co, they genuinely just gave up. Feels like they like Lampard, but the tactics aren’t working.
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