When Did The Rot Set In?

[Mark barnett]

Moyes leaving appointing Martinez who despite the 1st season was badly flawed because he was stubbornly set in his own way of playing.

 

[spectateur]

Yes it was

The same Phil Carter who oversaw the running down of the Littlewoods Organisation. Persued the economic policies of Thatcher. Got a Sir for services
to the conservative party.
What a fellow to be chairman of the great EFC.

 

[Lawrence]

The common denominator is the fans, who I do regularly call out for the misdemeanours they have made.

Give him a hand job Jenny

 

[Blue peter]

The same Phil Carter who oversaw the running down of the Littlewoods Organisation. Persued the economic policies of Thatcher. Got a Sir for services
to the conservative party.
What a fellow to be chairman of the great EFC.

Unfortunately the custodians owners/chairmen/CEOs of many football clubs are rich and their political leanings tend to bend that way

 

[StreetEndBlue]

Notice Carter seems to getting some criticism here, the man who refused to fight the European ban because he was a Tory and didn't want to upset his boss Thatcher because she wanted us all out of Europe.

Putting political bollocks ahead of the club he was Chairman of.

 

[good times bad times]

Notice Carter seems to getting some criticism here, the man who refused to fight the European ban because he was a Tory and didn't want to upset his boss Thatcher because she wanted us all out of Europe.

Putting political bollocks ahead of the club he was Chairman of.

Always felt the piggy-backed on the success of the mid eighties team to enhance his reputation which never sat well with me.

Another thing he did was appoint Harvey when Kendall left because he felt that as Kendall's No 2, he was his natural successor. In reality all he was doing was imitating the RS as that is exactly what they did at that time - promote from within.

 

[Blue peter]

Always felt the piggy-backed on the success of the mid eighties team to enhance his reputation which never sat well with me.

Another thing he did was appoint Harvey when Kendall left because he felt that as Kendall's No 2, he was his natural successor. In reality all he was doing was imitating the RS as that is exactly what they did at that time - promote from within.

The history of Everton appears to be littered with ‘lazy‘ and perceived ‘safe‘ managerial appointments

 

[AsiaAsia82]

National Lottery taking over from the Pools

 

[evertony]

August 1878....it was all downhill from there.

 

[Telford-Feb-85]

July 1987

 

[Osamabindiesel]

The rot set in under Martinez. Not his fault per se but it formed this rotten culture where expectations were way higher than they should have been and created this toxic atmosphere for both players and the club. Instead of laying out a realistic path to victory we made utterly stupid signings and managerial appointments to try and fast forward the project, catapulting us into imminent doom. Therefore we are where we are

 

[BrendanGOT]

The rot set in under Martinez. Not his fault per se but it formed this rotten culture where expectations were way higher than they should have been and created this toxic atmosphere for both players and the club. Instead of laying out a realistic path to victory we made utterly stupid signings and managerial appointments to try and fast forward the project, catapulting us into imminent doom. Therefore we are where we are

Aspects of this are true however I think had the bedrock /foundation been good in the first place we would have done well. Moyes papered over the cracks of Kenwrights shambolic running of a Premier League club hence why the wheels started to come off with Martinez then after that Moshiri was basically trying to build a castle on top of a swamp. Add to that the fact that Kenwright and his mates were given access to the new credit card rather than replaced and here we are.

 

[Andy is the King]

When the club meekly accepted the European ban in 1985 for a crime that had absolutely nothing to do with us whatsoever.

Could you imagine Manchester City accepting a ban from next season's Champions League for something that did not involve them? There would be court cases left, right, and centre.

Instead, Carter and Co caved in and abandoned their duty to protect the club's interests.

Yeah, we won another league 2 years later, but the seeds were planted: not so much of decline, but of a culture that deferred to others, accepted "our lot", and, most importantly, "knew our place."

On the cusp of greatness & then this.

It can only happen to Everton.

Whose supporters were behind the ban........... I know apparently other English supporters were involved, blah, blah, blah. I blame the RS. I blame them for everything.

 

[Number_25]

The way people like Leon Osman and Tony Hibbert left the club never sat right with me. It was as if there was a sudden shift in attitude, as if we were too big to thank two men that represented this club for over a decade each.

 

[4737carlin]

Aspects of this are true however I think had the bedrock /foundation been good in the first place we would have done well. Moyes papered over the cracks of Kenwrights shambolic running of a Premier League club hence why the wheels started to come off with Martinez then after that Moshiri was basically trying to build a castle on top of a swamp. Add to that the fact that Kenwright and his mates were given access to the new credit card rather than replaced and here we are.

What ?????

Behave, Moshiri bought an Everton with a squad better then anything we have seen under him, swamp? Our squad included these players

Tim Howard
Leighton Baines
John Stones
Phil Jagielka (captain)
Séamus Coleman
Steven Pienaar
Romelu Lukaku
Kevin Mirallas

Not one one single point wince have we had a squad as good as that