Current Affairs What is Woke ?

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Oh no I get it mate, and i'm with you - I'm just stating that a policy to dictate speech is in place in a Government-led workplace.

What I was getting at is that his religious argument was a foolish one - i'd have gone down the biology route, as it's immutable and relevant.
It asks an employee, within a work environment, to use language which is respectful to the person they're addressing.

Its the same with swearing, racism, sexual terminology.
 
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Did you even read the article?

Yes mate, a double-rapist changed his gender on a whim to avoid a men's prison. Or do you believe otherwise?


It asks an employee, within a work environment, to use language which is respectful to the person they're addressing.

Its the same with swearing, racism, sexual terminology.

That's my point. It wasn't. It REQUIRES use of preferred pronouns, meaning mandatory. The employees are obligated to use specific language regardless of personal viewpoint, or risk consequences.

Swearing/racism (of course racism) not sure what you mean by sexual terminology? Someone's gender identity completely different as a man who wishes to be called otherwise is, for all intents and purposes - asking the interlocutor to lie.
 
Yes mate, a double-rapist changed his gender on a whim to avoid a men's prison. Or do you believe otherwise?




That's my point. It wasn't. It REQUIRES use of preferred pronouns, meaning mandatory. The employees are obligated to use specific language regardless of personal viewpoint, or risk consequences.

Swearing/racism (of course racism) not sure what you mean by sexual terminology? Someone's gender identity completely different as a man who wishes to be called otherwise is, for all intents and purposes - asking the interlocutor to lie.
They are required to? There is no alternative, for example, using someone's name?
 
So not required to use a preferred pronoun.

What would make you uncomfortable with using someone's preferred pronoun, out of interest?

Well no, because if a pronoun has to be used - it HAS to be the one dictated to by the individual (and I do mean dictated).


I'm perfectly fine with him/her regardless of whether they are trans or not - absolutely none of my business and i'm not going to go out of my way to be impolite to them.


However.

They/them/theirs - If somebody is singular, i'll use singular pronouns.

As for the others...

Ze/hir/hirs
Xe/xem/xyrs
Ver/vir/vis
Te/tem/ter
E/em/eirs

I'm not using/remembering that crap, just to feed your narcissistic perception of entitlement. Find something else to make yourself interesting. There is 111 pronouns in the English language, and they're none of them.
 
Are pronouns not typically used for someone who is not present? Who directly responds to someone using pronouns. Its peculiar.

I don't even like to overly use the actual names of people i am talking to, i think it makes you come across as disingenuous and phony. If someone uses my name more than once in a conversation, and I'm not talking about using my name to get my attention, or single me out and address me in a group scenario, i am immediately suspicious of them.

The pronouns thing to me is bizarre and used solely by people who are seeking attention and/or want to force a perceived identity on others.
 
Well no, because if a pronoun has to be used - it HAS to be the one dictated to by the individual (and I do mean dictated).


I'm perfectly fine with him/her regardless of whether they are trans or not - absolutely none of my business and i'm not going to go out of my way to be impolite to them.


However.

They/them/theirs - If somebody is singular, i'll use singular pronouns.

As for the others...

Ze/hir/hirs
Xe/xem/xyrs
Ver/vir/vis
Te/tem/ter
E/em/eirs

I'm not using/remembering that crap, just to feed your narcissistic perception of entitlement. Find something else to make yourself interesting. There is 111 pronouns in the English language, and they're none of them.
You wouldn't have to remember, you'd just ask and then call whoever it was by name.

You seem to be very angry about what seems like a common courtesy.

If a Dr asked you specifically to call them Doctor or someone had been knighted and asked you to call them Sir, would you refuse?
 
Are pronouns not typically used for someone who is not present? Who directly responds to someone using pronouns. Its peculiar.

I don't even like to overly use the actual names of people i am talking to, i think it makes you come across as disingenuous and phony. If someone uses my name more than once in a conversation, and I'm not talking about using my name to get my attention, or single me out and address me in a group scenario, i am immediately suspicious of them.

The pronouns thing to me is bizarre and used solely by people who are seeking attention and/or want to force a perceived identity on others.
Exactly why it's a bit of a non issue. It's not common to keep addressing someone by name or pronoun after an introduction.
 
You wouldn't have to remember, you'd just ask and then call whoever it was by name.

You seem to be very angry about what seems like a common courtesy.

If a Dr asked you specifically to call them Doctor or someone had been knighted and asked you to call them Sir, would you refuse?

Oh hello Sir Henry, how are you Sir Henry, can I lick your boots please Sir Henry?

Nope wouldn't do it. This isn't the middle ages and I'm not some knave.
 
Health and safety - woke
Stopping slavery - woke
Child labour laws - woke
National Health service - woke
Right to vote - woke
Modern plumbing - woke
Using soap to wash - woke
Water treatment - woke
Stopping corporal punishment - woke

The laziest shorthand for the perpetually confused and frustrated.
I'd sneak 'universal suffrage' onto that list, just because of the irony I reckon a fair few will be totally absent of.
 
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