Current Affairs What is Woke ?

[bluestevon]

So you think the LotR TV series is bad not because of bad writing, directing or a greedy parent company trying to squeeze what they can from a franchise, but because of the inclusion of a few people of colour and women in certain roles?

A fantasy world should be immersing, a known fantasy world with a meticulous lore should definitely be an immersive experience. A company deliberately going out the way to destroy canon, lore and essentially across the entire show make it multi diverse for every race makes it almost laughable mate.

The bad writing and atrocious dialogue alone as enough to sink the show, but as this thread is about woke rather than a writing thread, it's the pertinent part.

They chose Tolkien for the same reason they've used marvel, star wars etc as vehicles to push "a show for modern audiences" "reflecting the world we live in" and frankly it's because they thought the fans would lap up any old dross they served up allowing them to try to imprint their own personal beliefs.

For context House of the dragon included many strong well written female characters, several major characters are black, it doesn't break immersion, because the characters have purpose beyond virtue signalling. And the initial fan reaction from some very very quickly went away.

Thees always the defence of 'hur, it's fantasy can't they be anything they want", and yup, you want that write a new series, don't take an existing IP beloved by millions and trash it. Tolkien would be spinning in his grave

 

[Rita_Poon]

Because they changed tack.

Because of a cock up in marketing - correct. Because they chose Dylan Mulvaney - a gay man, pretending to be a trans woman for financial benefit, and the left lap it up.

‘My first day as a girl and I’ve already cried three times. I wrote a scathing email that I did not send, I ordered dresses online that I could not afford. And then, when someone asked how I was, I said I was fine when I wasn’t.’

So this summarises what a woman is then? Sounds remarkably like misogyny to me.

sounds like success in the beverages game like.

 

[BlueTX]

Because they changed tack.

Because of a cock up in marketing - correct. Because they chose Dylan Mulvaney - a gay man, pretending to be a trans woman for financial benefit, and the left lap it up.

‘My first day as a girl and I’ve already cried three times. I wrote a scathing email that I did not send, I ordered dresses online that I could not afford. And then, when someone asked how I was, I said I was fine when I wasn’t.’

So this summarises what a woman is then? Sounds remarkably like misogyny to me.

This isn't about an issue you have with a marketing campaign, is it?

I'm done with this convo. We're talking past each other.

 

[bluestevon]

This isn't about an issue you have with a marketing campaign, is it?

I'm done with this convo. We're talking past each other.

On a side note, Bud light tastes like day old cat piss

 

[BlueTX]

On a side note, Bud light tastes like day old cat piss

Well, that's certainly true.

Ultimately, InBev did the consumer market a favor by turning low-income white males on to better brands.

 

[d34noj]

This isn't about an issue you have with a marketing campaign, is it?

I'm done with this convo. We're talking past each other.

I don't have an issue with the marketing campaign, I don't drink and I'm not American so couldn't care less.

As for me saying Mulvaney is a gay man pretending to be trans - that seems to be the general consensus.

 

[Moomin]

Have a look at May/June 2023 mate. All you're showing there is that once you stop being 'woke', your share prices go back up (although still 8.1% down)

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I don't have an issue with the marketing campaign, I don't drink and I'm not American so couldn't care less.

As for me saying Mulvaney is a gay man pretending to be trans - that seems to be the general consensus.

What does it matter? People like you obsessing about how someone chooses to see themselves! They’ve been there forever, let them be ffs

 

[d34noj]

What does it matter? People like you obsessing about how someone chooses to see themselves! They’ve been there forever, let them be ffs

Again, I couldn't care less what he does - he's making money out of his performance, good on him.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Again, I couldn't care less what he does - he's making money out of his performance, good on him.

So what is the issue? Politely, you have a habit of taking offence to minority issues and then saying you don’t care about them and then moving on. Three subjects now Palestine, reparations and woke, the same pattern. I’m not sure you know what you want tbh

Maybe one of the famous GOT centrists at heart

 

[Amw79]

Of all the overly precious fans getting upset about their franchise, I’m happiest to see LOTR fans complaining that their very important wizard and elf movies about magic rings are ruined by wokeness.

 

[d34noj]

So what is the issue? Politely, you have a habit of taking offence to minority issues and then saying you don’t care about them and then moving on. Three subjects now Palestine, reparations and woke, the same pattern. I’m not sure you know what you want tbh

Maybe one of the famous GOT centrists at heart

I get what you're saying mate, although I don't take offence as such - I just have a differing viewpoint to you, I think I'm a whole lot more sceptical for whatever reason.

Many of you read my posts, grab onto what you don't agree with and assume it's bigotry or hatred whilst dismissing the rest of the post explaining my viewpoint.

Ask me questions about anything mate, you know I'll give you an honest answer - I'm not a [Poor language removed] and don't feel the need to virtue signal or look good to strangers on the Internet.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

Have a look at May/June 2023 mate. All you're showing there is that once you stop being 'woke', your share prices go back up (although still 8.1% down)

What is woke please?

 

[coollino]

Sorry to be unwoke but Disney films are for kids, lord of the rings is boring and bud lite is horrible

Anyone who a lot of knowledge in any of them are very questionable

 

[Amw79]

Sorry to be unwoke but Disney films are for kids, lord of the rings is boring and bud lite is horrible

Anyone who a lot of knowledge in any of them are very questionable

Testify.