What if Moyes had today's budgets?

[davek]

Apart from the overhead kick away to Chelsea

He was with us a long time, of course there'd be moments like that. But he was a poor distributor of the ball and all at sea in keeping shape in a midfield unit.

 

[whiteshadow]

The reason Moyes spent £67M in his only season there and not the £107M that LVG spent in his first season is because he bolloxed up the summer transfer window and dithered so much he couldn't get his players in. He denied himself that resource.

But besides that, he inherited the best players in the land: United where champions and by 11 clear points from the previous season. He had class at his disposal and finished them 6th.

That answers all the questions on whether Moyes could do better with greater quality players then he had at Everton when he was here.

I get your point but I do think Ferguson over achieved with those players in his last few seasons, that Utd team weren't as good as people thought, they just had a legendary manager that could get the best out of them.

Moyes should have done better but even LVG couldn't get them winning either.

 

[davek]

I get your point but I do think Ferguson over achieved with those players in his last few seasons, that Utd team weren't as good as people thought, they just had a legendary manager that could get the best out of them.

Moyes should have done better but even LVG couldn't get them winning either.

Got them CL qualified again and a trophy.

 

[whiteshadow]

Got them CL qualified again and a trophy.

True.

 

[jceverton]

2008 I believe. At least.

Okay cheers mate. Be interesting to compare his pre and post signings on this basis.

 

[truebluejersey]

He was with us a long time, of course there'd be moments like that. But he was a poor distributor of the ball and all at sea in keeping shape in a midfield unit.

He wasn't a Paul Scholes I will give you that. I've seen worse footballers (on the ground) he was exceptional in the air and he
gave his all for someone not in anyway affiliated with the club prior to signing.

There are plenty of Everton players who deserve slagging off more than him.

 

[kev101]

He put his blood sweat and tears into Everton. I'll always have a soft spot for Moysey, wherever he goes (almost)
Any Evertonian slagging him off is an utter know nothing tool!
Everything that's happened to us since he left just shows how good he was for us.
Oh and United was always going to be a poisoned chalice, whoever went there after SA

 

[johnnydawg68]

Okay cheers mate. Be interesting to compare his pre and post signings on this basis.

Notable transfers after 2008

Date Player Club Fee
31 Jan 2013 John Stones Barnsley £500k
19 Aug 2012 Thomas Hitzlsperger [Free Agent] No Fee
31 Aug 2012 Matthew Kennedy Kilmarnock £250k
31 Aug 2012 Bryan Oviedo FC Copenhagen £1.2m
19 Aug 2012 Kevin Mirallas Olympiakos £6m
12 Aug 2012 Jack Rodwell Manchester City £12m
31 Jul 2012 Steven Pienaar Tottenham Hotspur £4.5m
4 Jul 2012 Steven Naismith Glasgow Rangers No Fee
31 Jan 2012 Steven Pienaar Tottenham Hotspur Loan
31 Jan 2012 Nikica Jelavic Glasgow Rangers £5.5m
13 Jan 2012 Darron Gibson Manchaester United £2.0m
30 Dec 2011 Landon Donovan LA Galaxy Loan In
31 Aug 2011 Royston Drenthe Real Madrid (Spa) Loan In
31 Aug 2011 Denis Stracqualursi Tigre (Arg) Loan In
31 Aug 2011 Jermaine Beckford Leicester City £1.5m
4 Jul 2011 Eric Dier Sporting Lisbon Loan In
31 Jan 2011 Apostolos Vellios Iraklis Thessaloniki £250k
20 Jan 2011 Eric Dier Sporting Lisbon Loan In
30 Jun 2010 Mageye Gueye Strasbourg ~£900k
28 May 2010 Jermaine Beckford Leeds Utd No Fee
23 Jan 2010 Philippe Senderos Arsenal Loan
12 Jan 2010 Landon Donovan LA Galaxy Loan
1 Sep 2009 John Heitinga Atletico Madrid £6.1m
28 Aug 2009 Sylvain Distin Portsmouth £5m
25 Aug 2009 Diniyar Bilyaletdinov Lokomotiv Moscow £9m
25 Aug 2009 Joleon Lescott Manchester City £24m
1 Jul 2009 Shkodran Mustafi SV Hamburg (Ger) No Fee
1 Jul 2009 Luke Garbutt Leeds United Nominal Fee
29 Jun 2009 Lars Jacobsen Blackburn Rovers No Fee
1 Sep 2008 Louis Saha Manchester United Undisclosed
22 Apr 2008 Steven Pienaar Borussia Dortmund (Ger) £2.05m
14 Jan 2008 Daniel Gosling Plymouth Argyle £1m
11 Jan 2008 Manuel Fernandes Valencia CF (Spa) Loan

 

[davek]

He wasn't a Paul Scholes I will give you that. I've seen worse footballers (on the ground) he was exceptional in the air and he
gave his all for someone not in anyway affiliated with the club prior to signing.

There are plenty of Everton players who deserve slagging off more than him.

I'm not slagging him off. I'm underlining the fact that Barry was said to be poor and Cahill a better footballer than him.

 

[truebluejersey]

Notable transfers after 2008

Date Player Club Fee
31 Jan 2013 John Stones Barnsley £500k
19 Aug 2012 Thomas Hitzlsperger [Free Agent] No Fee
31 Aug 2012 Matthew Kennedy Kilmarnock £250k
31 Aug 2012 Bryan Oviedo FC Copenhagen £1.2m
19 Aug 2012 Kevin Mirallas Olympiakos £6m
12 Aug 2012 Jack Rodwell Manchester City £12m
31 Jul 2012 Steven Pienaar Tottenham Hotspur £4.5m
4 Jul 2012 Steven Naismith Glasgow Rangers No Fee
31 Jan 2012 Steven Pienaar Tottenham Hotspur Loan
31 Jan 2012 Nikica Jelavic Glasgow Rangers £5.5m
13 Jan 2012 Darron Gibson Manchaester United £2.0m
30 Dec 2011 Landon Donovan LA Galaxy Loan In
31 Aug 2011 Royston Drenthe Real Madrid (Spa) Loan In
31 Aug 2011 Denis Stracqualursi Tigre (Arg) Loan In
31 Aug 2011 Jermaine Beckford Leicester City £1.5m
4 Jul 2011 Eric Dier Sporting Lisbon Loan In
31 Jan 2011 Apostolos Vellios Iraklis Thessaloniki £250k
20 Jan 2011 Eric Dier Sporting Lisbon Loan In
30 Jun 2010 Mageye Gueye Strasbourg ~£900k
28 May 2010 Jermaine Beckford Leeds Utd No Fee
23 Jan 2010 Philippe Senderos Arsenal Loan
12 Jan 2010 Landon Donovan LA Galaxy Loan
1 Sep 2009 John Heitinga Atletico Madrid £6.1m
28 Aug 2009 Sylvain Distin Portsmouth £5m
25 Aug 2009 Diniyar Bilyaletdinov Lokomotiv Moscow £9m
25 Aug 2009 Joleon Lescott Manchester City £24m
1 Jul 2009 Shkodran Mustafi SV Hamburg (Ger) No Fee
1 Jul 2009 Luke Garbutt Leeds United Nominal Fee
29 Jun 2009 Lars Jacobsen Blackburn Rovers No Fee
1 Sep 2008 Louis Saha Manchester United Undisclosed
22 Apr 2008 Steven Pienaar Borussia Dortmund (Ger) £2.05m
14 Jan 2008 Daniel Gosling Plymouth Argyle £1m
11 Jan 2008 Manuel Fernandes Valencia CF (Spa) Loan

K'nell mate, do some work will yeah

 

[truebluejersey]

I'm not slagging him off. I'm underlining the fact that Barry was said to be poor and Cahill a better footballer than him.

Neither Cahill or Barry deserve a slagging in my book

 

[Frang]

sell to buy.

 

[canveyblue]

What Moyes achieved here considering his net spend was nothing short of fantastic.
He was shafted at United by the inept close season performance of Woodward.
He produced some really good sides on a pittance.

Totally agree...yes he chatted wham when he left but for what he had he did well

 

[canveyblue]

He put his blood sweat and tears into Everton. I'll always have a soft spot for Moysey, wherever he goes (almost)
Any Evertonian slagging him off is an utter know nothing tool!
Everything that's happened to us since he left just shows how good he was for us.
Oh and United was always going to be a poisoned chalice, whoever went there after SA

well said sir

 

[efcste97]

He put his blood sweat and tears into Everton. I'll always have a soft spot for Moysey, wherever he goes (almost)
Any Evertonian slagging him off is an utter know nothing tool!
Everything that's happened to us since he left just shows how good he was for us.
Oh and United was always going to be a poisoned chalice, whoever went there after SA

Not EVERYTHING that has happened has been bad, season after Moyes left we had a fantastic season. I still stand by thinking it was the right time for him to go and would never want him to come back. I totally respect what he achieved when he was manager though.