Current Affairs Weinstein II

[Goat]

Im not defending anyone.

What i am doing is asking what the evidence was as from what i read...it seemed like there wasnt anything clear...however the 'me too' movement made it seem like the guy was a cert to be sent down...with clear evidence.

I cant see what sent him down? Have you got the link to any evidence ?

No Zat, thats why we have courts of law and not courts of public opinion.



A court is any person or institution, often as a government institution, with the authority to adjudicate legal disputes between parties and carry out the administration of justice in civil, criminal, and administrative matters in accordance with the rule of law.[1] In both common law and civil law legal systems, courts are the central means for dispute resolution, and it is generally understood that all people have an ability to bring their claims before a court. Similarly, the rights of those accused of a crime include the right to present a defense before a court.

The system of courts that interprets and applies the law is collectively known as the judiciary. The place where a court sits is known as a venue. The room where court proceedings occur is known as a courtroom, and the building as a courthouse; court facilities range from simple and very small facilities in rural communities to large buildings in cities.

 

[Goat]

Did anybody see any evidence that was used in the conviction of the Yorkshire Ripper?

Maybe he was innocent.

 

[Goat]

ACTUALLY, ive never seen any evidence that Hitler committed mass murder.

Just lots of hearsay.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Im not defending anyone.

What i am doing is asking what the evidence was as from what i read...it seemed like there wasnt anything clear...however the 'me too' movement made it seem like the guy was a cert to be sent down...with clear evidence.

I cant see what sent him down? Have you got the link to any evidence ?

 

[Prevenger17]

#FreeGentleHarv

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[JimmyJeffers]

ACTUALLY, ive never seen any evidence that Hitler committed mass murder.

Just lots of hearsay.

Maybe not as clear cut as expected

 

[Zatara]

No Zat, I don't. If you have more evidence than the mountain of historical allegations and weeks of courtroom witness testimony and evidence presented there, then you should go the police

Gentle Harv has been carved up good and proper here

No Zat, thats why we have courts of law and not courts of public opinion.



A court is any person or institution, often as a government institution, with the authority to adjudicate legal disputes between parties and carry out the administration of justice in civil, criminal, and administrative matters in accordance with the rule of law.[1] In both common law and civil law legal systems, courts are the central means for dispute resolution, and it is generally understood that all people have an ability to bring their claims before a court. Similarly, the rights of those accused of a crime include the right to present a defense before a court.

The system of courts that interprets and applies the law is collectively known as the judiciary. The place where a court sits is known as a venue. The room where court proceedings occur is known as a courtroom, and the building as a courthouse; court facilities range from simple and very small facilities in rural communities to large buildings in cities.

Did anybody see any evidence that was used in the conviction of the Yorkshire Ripper?

Maybe he was innocent.

ACTUALLY, ive never seen any evidence that Hitler committed mass murder.

Just lots of hearsay.

#FreeGentleHarv

Why all this drama when I asked what the "actual" evidence was to convict him?

Ive not discussed physical evidence or testimony...ive not written that hes innocent.

Ive just asked what the actual.evidence was against him...

 

[LinekersLegs]

Why all this drama when I asked what the "actual" evidence was to convict him?

Ive not discussed physical evidence or testimony...ive not written that hes innocent.

Ive just asked what the actual.evidence was against him...

Testimony IS evidence Zat. Multiple people are on death row because a single person testified at their trial that they saw x do y. Multiple women swore on oath that Weinstein assaulted them, that is evidence. The jury can believe them or Weinstein, they chose the former.

 

[Zatara]

Testimony IS evidence Zat. Multiple people are on death row because a single person testified at their trial that they saw x do y. Multiple women swore on oath that Weinstein assaulted them, that is evidence. The jury can believe them or Weinstein, they chose the former.

Thats what Ive been asking, what actual evidence convicted him?

So it thats other victims testimony--that the jury believed--which swung the case, then thats the answer i was looking for.

Where I had left it was when:

1: Both women admitted to continuing meeting him in hotel rooms many times + asking to intro friends and family members to him.

2: His lawyer seemed to have proved that one womans testimony about how he removed her dress was highly unlikely + how she was forced inside the room etc etc

I stopped following after the media reports at that time.

Was wondering now hes been found guilty how the prosecution disproved the above...but doesnt seem like they needed to.

It all seems quite strange to me.

 

[Goat]

Thats what Ive been asking, what actual evidence convicted him?

So it thats other victims testimony--that the jury believed--which swung the case, then thats the answer i was looking for.

Where I had left it was when:

1: Both women admitted to continuing meeting him in hotel rooms many times + asking to intro friends and family members to him.

2: His lawyer seemed to have proved that one womans testimony about how he removed her dress was highly unlikely + how she was forced inside the room etc etc

I stopped following after the media reports at that time.

Was wondering now hes been found guilty how the prosecution disproved the above...but doesnt seem like they needed to.

It all seems quite strange to me.

Why the Weinstein Jury Decided to Convict: Inside the Deliberations (Published 2020)

The Harvey Weinstein jurors, in 26 “stressful” hours in the jury room, focused on the question of consent in the sexual encounters central to the case.

www.nytimes.com

I think its proper weird you are defending such a man.

Sexual harassment or assault
Women who said they had been sexually harassed or assaulted by Weinstein include:[32]

• Amber Anderson, actress[33]
• Lysette Anthony, actress[34]
• Asia Argento, actress and director[23]
• Rosanna Arquette, actress[23]
• Jessica Barth, actress[23]
• Kate Beckinsale, actress[35]
• Zoë Brock, model[36]
• Juls Bindi, massage therapist[37]
• Cynthia Burr, actress[38]
• Cate Blanchett, actress[39][note 1]
• Liza Campbell, writer and artist[40]
• Alexandra Canosa, producer[41][42]
• Rowena Chiu, Weinstein employee[43]
• Marisa Coughlan, actress and writer[44]
• Emma de Caunes, actress[23]
• Hope Exiner d'Amore, Weinstein employee[38]
• Florence Darel, actress[45]
• Cara Delevingne, actress and model[46]
• Paz de la Huerta, actress[47]
• Juliana De Paula, model[48]
• Sophie Dix, actress[49]
• Lacey Dorn, actress and filmmaker[38]
• Kaitlin Doubleday, actress[50]
• Caitlin Dulaney, actress [51]
• Dawn Dunning, actress[52]
• Lina Esco, actress and director[53]
• Alice Evans, actress[54]
• Lucia Evans, formerly Lucia Stoller, actress[23]
• Angie Everhart, model and actress[55]
• Claire Forlani, actress[56]
• Romola Garai, actress[57]
• Louisette Geiss, screenwriter and actress[40]
• Louise Godbold, nonprofit organization director[40]
• Judith Godrèche, actress[52]
• Trish Goff, former model, actress, and real estate broker[58]
• Larissa Gomes, actress[51]
• Heather Graham, actress[59]
• Eva Green, actress[60]
• Ambra Gutierrez, formerly Ambra Battilana, model[21]
• Mimi Haleyi, former production assistant[11][61]
• Daryl Hannah, actress[62]
• Salma Hayek, actress and producer[63]
• Lena Headey, actress[64]
• Anne Heche, actress[65]
• Lauren Holly, actress[66]
• Dominique Huett, actress[67]
• Amy Israel, Miramax executive[11]
• Angelina Jolie, actress and director[52]
• Ashley Judd, actress[11][21]
• Minka Kelly, actress[68]
• Katherine Kendall, actress[52]
• Heather Kerr, actress[69][70]
• Mia Kirshner, actress[11][71]
• Myleene Klass, singer and model[21]
• Emma Loman (alias), German actress[72]
• Laura Madden, Weinstein employee[40]
• Natassia Malthe, actress[73]
• Jessica Mann, former[74] aspiring[75] actress[76][77][78]
• Julianna Margulies, actress[79]
• Brit Marling, actress[80][81]
• Sarah Ann Masse, actress, comedian, and writer[40]
• Ashley Matthau, actress[11][38]
• Rose McGowan, actress[11][21]
• Natalie Mendoza, actress[82]
• Sophie Morris, administrative assistant[83]
• Katya Mtsitouridze, TV hostess and head of Russian film body Roskino[84]
• Emily Nestor, Weinstein employee[40]
• Jennifer Siebel Newsom, documentary filmmaker and actress[11][85]
• Connie Nielsen, actress[86]
• Kadian Noble, actress[87]
• Lupita Nyong'o, actress[88]
• Lauren O'Connor, Weinstein employee[11][89]
• Gwyneth Paltrow, actress[11][52]
• Samantha Panagrosso, former model[90]
• Zelda Perkins, Weinstein employee[40]
• Vu Thu Phuong, actress and businesswoman[11][91]
• Sarah Polley, actress, writer, and director[92]
• Monica Potter, actress[93]
• Tomi-Ann Roberts, professor of psychology and former aspiring actress[52]
• Lisa Rose, Miramax employee[94]
• Erika Rosenbaum, actress[95]
• Melissa Sagemiller, actress[96]
• Annabella Sciorra, actress[62]
• Léa Seydoux, actress[97]
• Lauren Sivan, journalist[98]
• Chelsea Skidmore, actress and comedian[53]
• Mira Sorvino, actress[23]
• Kaja Sokola, model[99]
• Tara Subkoff, actress[21]
• Melissa Thompson[51]
• Uma Thurman, actress[100][101][102]
• Paula Wachowiak, Weinstein employee[103]
• Paula Williams, actress[104]
• Sean Young, actress[105]

Rape
The women who have accused Weinstein of rape include:

• Lysette Anthony told British police in October 2017 that Weinstein raped her in the late 1980s at her home in London.[106]
• Asia Argento told The New Yorker that in 1997, Weinstein invited her into a hotel room, "pulled her skirt up, forced her legs apart, and performed oral sex on her as she repeatedly told him to stop."[23]
• Paz de la Huerta said Weinstein had raped her on two separate occasions in November and December 2010.[47]
• Lucia Evans said, after a business meeting in 2004, Weinstein forced her to perform oral sex on him.[23]
• Hope Exiner d'Amore, a former employee of Weinstein, said he raped her during a business trip to New York in the late 1970s.[38]
• Miriam "Mimi" Haleyi, a production crew member, said Weinstein forcibly performed oral sex on her in his New York City apartment in 2006 when she was in her twenties.[107]
• Dominique Huett said Weinstein forcibly performed oral sex on her and then carried out another sexual act in front of her.[108]
• Natassia Malthe said in 2008, Weinstein barged into her London hotel room at night and raped her.[73][109]
• Jessica Mann testified in 2020 that Weinstein raped her, on March 18, 2013.[74][78]
• Rose McGowan wrote on Twitter that she told the Amazon Studios head Roy Price that Weinstein had raped her, but Price ignored this and continued collaborating with Weinstein.[110] Price later resigned from his post following sexual harassment allegations against him.[111]
• Annabella Sciorra said, in the early 1990s, Weinstein forced himself into her apartment, shoved her onto her bed and raped her.[62][112]
• Melissa Thompson, a tech entrepreneur, told Sky News Weinstein raped her in his hotel room following a business meeting in 2011.[113][114][115]
• An unnamed woman told The New Yorker that Weinstein invited her into a hotel room on a pretext, and "forced himself on [her] sexually" despite her protests.[23]
• An unnamed actress told the Los Angeles Times that in 2013, Weinstein "bullied his way" into her hotel room, grabbed her by the hair, dragged her into the bathroom and raped her.[116]
• An unnamed actress sued Weinstein for sexual battery and assault, alleging that in 2016 he forced her into sex.[117]

 

[Zatara]

Why the Weinstein Jury Decided to Convict: Inside the Deliberations (Published 2020)

The Harvey Weinstein jurors, in 26 “stressful” hours in the jury room, focused on the question of consent in the sexual encounters central to the case.

www.nytimes.com

I think its proper weird you are defending such a man.

Sexual harassment or assault
Women who said they had been sexually harassed or assaulted by Weinstein include:[32]

• Amber Anderson, actress[33]
• Lysette Anthony, actress[34]
• Asia Argento, actress and director[23]
• Rosanna Arquette, actress[23]
• Jessica Barth, actress[23]
• Kate Beckinsale, actress[35]
• Zoë Brock, model[36]
• Juls Bindi, massage therapist[37]
• Cynthia Burr, actress[38]
• Cate Blanchett, actress[39][note 1]
• Liza Campbell, writer and artist[40]
• Alexandra Canosa, producer[41][42]
• Rowena Chiu, Weinstein employee[43]
• Marisa Coughlan, actress and writer[44]
• Emma de Caunes, actress[23]
• Hope Exiner d'Amore, Weinstein employee[38]
• Florence Darel, actress[45]
• Cara Delevingne, actress and model[46]
• Paz de la Huerta, actress[47]
• Juliana De Paula, model[48]
• Sophie Dix, actress[49]
• Lacey Dorn, actress and filmmaker[38]
• Kaitlin Doubleday, actress[50]
• Caitlin Dulaney, actress [51]
• Dawn Dunning, actress[52]
• Lina Esco, actress and director[53]
• Alice Evans, actress[54]
• Lucia Evans, formerly Lucia Stoller, actress[23]
• Angie Everhart, model and actress[55]
• Claire Forlani, actress[56]
• Romola Garai, actress[57]
• Louisette Geiss, screenwriter and actress[40]
• Louise Godbold, nonprofit organization director[40]
• Judith Godrèche, actress[52]
• Trish Goff, former model, actress, and real estate broker[58]
• Larissa Gomes, actress[51]
• Heather Graham, actress[59]
• Eva Green, actress[60]
• Ambra Gutierrez, formerly Ambra Battilana, model[21]
• Mimi Haleyi, former production assistant[11][61]
• Daryl Hannah, actress[62]
• Salma Hayek, actress and producer[63]
• Lena Headey, actress[64]
• Anne Heche, actress[65]
• Lauren Holly, actress[66]
• Dominique Huett, actress[67]
• Amy Israel, Miramax executive[11]
• Angelina Jolie, actress and director[52]
• Ashley Judd, actress[11][21]
• Minka Kelly, actress[68]
• Katherine Kendall, actress[52]
• Heather Kerr, actress[69][70]
• Mia Kirshner, actress[11][71]
• Myleene Klass, singer and model[21]
• Emma Loman (alias), German actress[72]
• Laura Madden, Weinstein employee[40]
• Natassia Malthe, actress[73]
• Jessica Mann, former[74] aspiring[75] actress[76][77][78]
• Julianna Margulies, actress[79]
• Brit Marling, actress[80][81]
• Sarah Ann Masse, actress, comedian, and writer[40]
• Ashley Matthau, actress[11][38]
• Rose McGowan, actress[11][21]
• Natalie Mendoza, actress[82]
• Sophie Morris, administrative assistant[83]
• Katya Mtsitouridze, TV hostess and head of Russian film body Roskino[84]
• Emily Nestor, Weinstein employee[40]
• Jennifer Siebel Newsom, documentary filmmaker and actress[11][85]
• Connie Nielsen, actress[86]
• Kadian Noble, actress[87]
• Lupita Nyong'o, actress[88]
• Lauren O'Connor, Weinstein employee[11][89]
• Gwyneth Paltrow, actress[11][52]
• Samantha Panagrosso, former model[90]
• Zelda Perkins, Weinstein employee[40]
• Vu Thu Phuong, actress and businesswoman[11][91]
• Sarah Polley, actress, writer, and director[92]
• Monica Potter, actress[93]
• Tomi-Ann Roberts, professor of psychology and former aspiring actress[52]
• Lisa Rose, Miramax employee[94]
• Erika Rosenbaum, actress[95]
• Melissa Sagemiller, actress[96]
• Annabella Sciorra, actress[62]
• Léa Seydoux, actress[97]
• Lauren Sivan, journalist[98]
• Chelsea Skidmore, actress and comedian[53]
• Mira Sorvino, actress[23]
• Kaja Sokola, model[99]
• Tara Subkoff, actress[21]
• Melissa Thompson[51]
• Uma Thurman, actress[100][101][102]
• Paula Wachowiak, Weinstein employee[103]
• Paula Williams, actress[104]
• Sean Young, actress[105]

Rape
The women who have accused Weinstein of rape include:

• Lysette Anthony told British police in October 2017 that Weinstein raped her in the late 1980s at her home in London.[106]
• Asia Argento told The New Yorker that in 1997, Weinstein invited her into a hotel room, "pulled her skirt up, forced her legs apart, and performed oral sex on her as she repeatedly told him to stop."[23]
• Paz de la Huerta said Weinstein had raped her on two separate occasions in November and December 2010.[47]
• Lucia Evans said, after a business meeting in 2004, Weinstein forced her to perform oral sex on him.[23]
• Hope Exiner d'Amore, a former employee of Weinstein, said he raped her during a business trip to New York in the late 1970s.[38]
• Miriam "Mimi" Haleyi, a production crew member, said Weinstein forcibly performed oral sex on her in his New York City apartment in 2006 when she was in her twenties.[107]
• Dominique Huett said Weinstein forcibly performed oral sex on her and then carried out another sexual act in front of her.[108]
• Natassia Malthe said in 2008, Weinstein barged into her London hotel room at night and raped her.[73][109]
• Jessica Mann testified in 2020 that Weinstein raped her, on March 18, 2013.[74][78]
• Rose McGowan wrote on Twitter that she told the Amazon Studios head Roy Price that Weinstein had raped her, but Price ignored this and continued collaborating with Weinstein.[110] Price later resigned from his post following sexual harassment allegations against him.[111]
• Annabella Sciorra said, in the early 1990s, Weinstein forced himself into her apartment, shoved her onto her bed and raped her.[62][112]
• Melissa Thompson, a tech entrepreneur, told Sky News Weinstein raped her in his hotel room following a business meeting in 2011.[113][114][115]
• An unnamed woman told The New Yorker that Weinstein invited her into a hotel room on a pretext, and "forced himself on [her] sexually" despite her protests.[23]
• An unnamed actress told the Los Angeles Times that in 2013, Weinstein "bullied his way" into her hotel room, grabbed her by the hair, dragged her into the bathroom and raped her.[116]
• An unnamed actress sued Weinstein for sexual battery and assault, alleging that in 2016 he forced her into sex.[117]

Why are you saying im DEFENDING someone found guilty of rape?

Ive asked 1 question about the evidence.

WTF is wrong with you.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Thats what Ive been asking, what actual evidence convicted him?

So it thats other victims testimony--that the jury believed--which swung the case, then thats the answer i was looking for.

Where I had left it was when:

1: Both women admitted to continuing meeting him in hotel rooms many times + asking to intro friends and family members to him.

2: His lawyer seemed to have proved that one womans testimony about how he removed her dress was highly unlikely + how she was forced inside the room etc etc

I stopped following after the media reports at that time.

Was wondering now hes been found guilty how the prosecution disproved the above...but doesnt seem like they needed to.

It all seems quite strange to me.

Here are details of the testimony of the six women at his New York trial.

The Harrowing Testimonies of Harvey Weinstein’s Six Accusers

Six women who say they were abused by Weinstein took the stand in his New York trial. Here’s what they said.

www.thecut.com

I don’t think there was any attempt to disprove item 1, I think it was accepted by both prosecution and defense.The context of those meetings was obviously disputed.

I don’t think his in LA trial for forcible rape, forcible oral copulation, sexual penetration by use of force and sexual battery by restraint has currently been scheduled.

Why do you find it strange?

 

[Zatara]

Zat defending 1 of the biggest sexual predators of the last 30 years.

Who would have thought it.

Did anybody see any evidence that was used in the conviction of the Yorkshire Ripper?

Maybe he was innocent.

ACTUALLY, ive never seen any evidence that Hitler committed mass murder.

Just lots of hearsay.

#FreeGentleHarv

Why the Weinstein Jury Decided to Convict: Inside the Deliberations (Published 2020)

The Harvey Weinstein jurors, in 26 “stressful” hours in the jury room, focused on the question of consent in the sexual encounters central to the case.

www.nytimes.com

I think its proper weird you are defending such a man.

A poster asks about evidence and all of a sudden hes accused of supporting rape.

Outrageous.

 

[Prevenger17]

A poster asks about evidence and all of a sudden hes accused of supporting rape.

Outrageous.

We're just winding you up Zat, I don't see where I've accused you of supporting rape.