We must stick with silva as fans

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2017/18: 49 pts, -14 GD
2018/19: 54 pts, +8 GD

Enough improvement? No, not yet. Improvement? Yes, absolutely.
That doesn't tell the half of it. That 17/18 team realistically should've been even worse from a GD standpoint. That was a TERRIBLE - like bottom 3 - offensive team. The defense wasn't much better, either. Silva's team last year was a top 8/9 offense and a top 5/4 defense. The team was probably unlucky to not have more points. It was a MASSIVE improvement.
 
That doesn't tell the half of it. That 17/18 team realistically should've been even worse from a GD standpoint. That was a TERRIBLE - like bottom 3 - offensive team. The defense wasn't much better, either. Silva's team last year was a top 8/9 offense and a top 5/4 defense. The team was probably unlucky to not have more points. It was a MASSIVE improvement.

Agreed, although I believe that you make your luck, ie doing better than your luck would dictate is the result of "quality" on the pitch. We had the better of the play away to Arsenal last season, right, when Lacazette scored that golazo (aided and abetted by Walcott bumbling aimlessly 20 yards up the pitch instead of tracking back, but still the shot had an xG of 0.04 or something ridiculous). That's your "luck" right there. Gylfi had that strike at Leicester with the little Cruyff turn - that's what comes to mind as a bit of business that helped us outpace our "luck" - or maybe Digne's free kick to salvage a point in that crap game against Watford. We don't have enough of that quality so we are "unlucky," IMO.

Re: where these points got us in the table: is that really within our control? Our place in the table is still partially dependent on what other sides do. We can improve year over year and still finish lower if more sides exceed that total. Leicester won the league with 81 points, they could have had 91 last year and still been only in third, six points off second.
 
Agreed, although I believe that you make your luck, ie doing better than your luck would dictate is the result of "quality" on the pitch. We had the better of the play away to Arsenal last season, right, when Lacazette scored that golazo (aided and abetted by Walcott bumbling aimlessly 20 yards up the pitch instead of tracking back, but still the shot had an xG of 0.04 or something ridiculous). That's your "luck" right there. Gylfi had that strike at Leicester with the little Cruyff turn - that's what comes to mind as a bit of business that helped us outpace our "luck" - or maybe Digne's free kick to salvage a point in that crap game against Watford. We don't have enough of that quality so we are "unlucky," IMO.

Re: where these points got us in the table: is that really within our control? Our place in the table is still partially dependent on what other sides do. We can improve year over year and still finish lower if more sides exceed that total. Leicester won the league with 81 points, they could have had 91 last year and still been only in third, six points off second.
I think in this case we were simply lucky. I think our expected points would've been much lower than 49 points. I don't believe that was the case this past year.
 
We had such a run......from February until May last season.

Some great displays and equally great results.

Confidence was high coming into this season.....which makes this disappointing start harder to stomach.
It is an Everton tradition that when the players are coming back from holiday they look like they had never played football before. Some are overweighed(Jagielka Williams); others arent able to stop a ball anymore. Something to do do with the tough managers we have got?
 
It is an Everton tradition that when the players are coming back from holiday they look like they had never played football before. Some are overweighed(Jagielka Williams); others arent able to stop a ball anymore. Something to do do with the tough managers we have got?

Then two cbs don’t play anymore mate the ones we have aren’t overweight!
 
I was all for giving him this season but i am absolutely livid at how appalling we have been in some of the matches so far especially Villa and Bournemouth and we weren't that much better in the other 3 matches either result aside. There is just no way should we still be having all these issues and inconsistency problems in his second season. There is no excuse for it. We can blame the players as much as we like and yes they definitely do need a proper good kick up the ring piece but it is Silva's job to sort that out and he still hasn't after 2 pre-seasons, 3 transfer windows and 43 premier league matches and counting.

I am very unconvinced and if these inconsistency problems continue i can see him gone by Christmas and tbh that would suit me just fine as i am sick to death of it now. Just want to enjoy watching my team every week again which is really not too much to ask but seems to be more fantasy than reality.

Get it effing sorted Silva.

;)
 
Then two cbs don’t play anymore mate the ones we have aren’t overweight!
Keane isnt overweighed but he looks like a pub player. Our pre season form is glorious and we keep that up half of the season. Dont tell me that looks like good training methods.
 
for the sake of how well we do this season It Is imperative that we dont turn our back on Silva just yet. It has been possibly a poor start if you consider the opposition we've faced, however we are still not out of touch from where we want to be. If we start showing negativity in our home games then this will only serve to work against us.

Silva must improve on away form that is for sure and if he doesn't then he has to go. However if we look at previous managers, the minute the fans turned their back on them then it seemed their time was numbered and positive results seemed impossible. Silva still needs the time to prove himself and we really shouldn't turn on him just yet as there are still reasons to believe he can turn it around and as a club we just cant afford another season or two of transition.
I have seen nothing in all the time Silva has been that he is anymore than an average manager at best, tbh I never wanted him here and wanted him gone when we had that poor run last season. Imo Sticking with him won’t end well he’s as poor as Koeman and I think he’s worse than Martinez, no disrespect to Hull or Watford they were his level. It’s just such a shame we didn’t get someone much better after Big Sam. The worrying thing with Silva he won’t change anything, wrong players playing, sticking to his same formation and zonal marking which none seem to work, he’s either to stubborn or clueless how to change things, he’s not alone in that department Martinez and Koeman were much the same. Get rid and get a top manager in.
 
I was all for giving him this season but i am absolutely livid at how appalling we have been in some of the matches so far especially Villa and Bournemouth and we weren't that much better in the other 3 matches either result aside. There is just no way should we still be having all these issues and inconsistency problems in his second season. There is no excuse for it. We can blame the players as much as we like and yes they definitely do need a proper good kick up the ring piece but it is Silva's job to sort that out and he still hasn't after 2 pre-seasons, 3 transfer windows and 43 premier league matches and counting.

I am very unconvinced and if these inconsistency problems continue i can see him gone by Christmas and tbh that would suit me just fine as i am sick to death of it now. Just want to enjoy watching my team every week again which is really not too much to ask but seems to be more fantasy than reality.

Get it effing sorted Silva.

;)
He will never sort it, he simply isn’t good enough to manage us. Unfortunately the board have messed up again it’s time for a change.
 
id give him until the end of the season,hes had 2 years then.
if theres no improvement just remember fat sam was sacked after finishing 8th.

Big Fat crooked dinosaur Allardyce could have got us 4th mate, he was going to be sacked regardless. Fans hated him, he hated the fans, an absolute desperation appointment in what wasn't actually that dire of a situation.

A manager who has been Moshiri's pick for a long while is in place and we are no better off than last year.
 
I can't believe this is even a conversation. We play scintillating football at times but we are simply inconsistent. We need a run, for confidence- which will make other teams begin to fear us. The same was true of Howard Kendall's '84 side and Ferguson's early years at United.

Other teams fear is the key - the rs aren't all that great, it's just many if the opposition lose the game in their heads before walking out onto the pitch.

Mate we aren’t good and bar the last 10 games of last season we have had more shocking performances than good ones. Our back line has shipped set peices like no other team I have ever seen for about 70-80% of his time here. We lack fitness , cutting edge and our only attacking play comes through Digne or Coleman, one of which can’t cross a football. We play slow , predicable possession based football and persist with a system that I don’t like but more importantly doesn’t suit our players.
 
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