VAR

[Toffeepot]

I've been spinning out about VAR since yesterday. It just feels like one too many. I genuinely might be done watching football until they sort out this 'onfield decision, clear and obvious error' nonsense. I just don't see this bending of reality in rugby or hurling. Its closer to WWE than those two now.
Everton are what keep me watching and though we aren't the only ones shafted regularly it does make it worse that we regularly are, but the sport itself is compromised at this stage.
I'm tired of watching matches to be told I didn't see what I clearly saw.
Like I said I'm spinning out and may very well be back watching this broken officiating next week simply because of a deep rooted bond with Everton, but it's weird af watching a sport that depends as much on the officials as it does on the competitors to decide the result.
If I wanted to watch lads dressed in black making arbitrary rules and talking nonsense I'd go back to mass.
Rant over. Apologies

 

[Gilbert..]

The more you watch the side view of fernandes punching the ball away its beyond staggering that they've concocted an excuse up to not give a pen. A ref can miss that in real time. you can not NOT give that with replay assistance.
I'm now honestly at a loss as to wether its incompetence or corruption.

 

[maccavennie]

The more you watch the side view of fernandes punching the ball away its beyond staggering that they've concocted an excuse up to not give a pen. A ref can miss that in real time. you can not NOT give that with replay assistance.
I'm now honestly at a loss as to wether its incompetence or corruption.

Its corruption because everyone else, every pundit, every ex match official, every player, every single fan can see it. Yet 1 person on VAR says it isnt. That's match fixing, that's corruption and it's been going on for years and we're constantly on the wrong end of it.

I found it absolutely staggering that Moyes said he didn't know who was on VAR duty yesterday. Everton pay him and many backroom staff hundreds of thousands of pound to ensure theyve done their homework on everything and that inckudes the referee and VAR. If he'd known who was on VAR, hed have known he's shafted us before and straight after the game he could have kicked up a massive stink about it.

The officials will continue to do it against us for as long as theres no kick back from us and that starts with the manager.

 

[RD2910]

Which handball was worse, this one or Rodri's

Rodri, by some distance.

 

[Seathestars]

In the cold light of day I still can't believe the pen wasn't given.

VAR is simply not fit for purpose. There will always be controversey and it was brought in to reduce that, it's gotten worse as it's gone on.

 

[mahermi1]

I've been spinning out about VAR since yesterday. It just feels like one too many. I genuinely might be done watching football until they sort out this 'onfield decision, clear and obvious error' nonsense. I just don't see this bending of reality in rugby or hurling. Its closer to WWE than those two now.
Everton are what keep me watching and though we aren't the only ones shafted regularly it does make it worse that we regularly are, but the sport itself is compromised at this stage.
I'm tired of watching matches to be told I didn't see what I clearly saw.
Like I said I'm spinning out and may very well be back watching this broken officiating next week simply because of a deep rooted bond with Everton, but it's weird af watching a sport that depends as much on the officials as it does on the competitors to decide the result.
If I wanted to watch lads dressed in black making arbitrary rules and talking nonsense I'd go back to mass.
Rant over. Apologies

I would have just loved the var official explain that handball decision through at the time, like they do in Rugby league, their decisions are Crystal clear and go through each stage, our var is quite frankly a joke, faceless people making decisions on a whim, every one could and is viewed differently depending on who the var is that week and of course who the team is, the last bit is my personal view.

 

[Ring master]

I was never a fan of VAR and never wanted it. Yes we have got the odd call go our way, but no doubt at least triple go against us. Nearly every decision will be subjective with the same incident in other games giving a different reaction depending who it is. No amount of training will change that. It's mental how despite seeing stuff on TV that they still get it wrong like they are scared to get the right call and go against ref etc

 

[Marcus Kendall]

I've been spinning out about VAR since yesterday. It just feels like one too many. I genuinely might be done watching football until they sort out this 'onfield decision, clear and obvious error' nonsense. I just don't see this bending of reality in rugby or hurling. Its closer to WWE than those two now.
Everton are what keep me watching and though we aren't the only ones shafted regularly it does make it worse that we regularly are, but the sport itself is compromised at this stage.
I'm tired of watching matches to be told I didn't see what I clearly saw.
Like I said I'm spinning out and may very well be back watching this broken officiating next week simply because of a deep rooted bond with Everton, but it's weird af watching a sport that depends as much on the officials as it does on the competitors to decide the result.
If I wanted to watch lads dressed in black making arbitrary rules and talking nonsense I'd go back to mass.
Rant over. Apologies

My sentiments exactly. My love for the game has pretty much gone bar the deep rooted love of Everton and clubs I truly admire like Athletic Bilbao

 

[Marcus Kendall]

I was never a fan of VAR and never wanted it. Yes we have got the odd call go our way, but no doubt at least triple go against us. Nearly every decision will be subjective with the same incident in other games giving a different reaction depending who it is. No amount of training will change that. It's mental how despite seeing stuff on TV that they still get it wrong like they are scared to get the right call and go against ref etc

Exactly. Football is too subjective for VAR. Unlike cricket or tennis where it actually enhances the sport in football it has the opposite effect

 

[Lob]

There is no point in having Video Assistant Refereeing to improve the fairness of the game when they consistently get even the most basic decisions wrong whether it be through incompetence, bias or malice. You would have a much fairer balance over the season if they were simply not there at all. We have had some shocking VAR decisions against us this season but that handball yesterday was really taking the biscuit. You would be hard pressed to call that decision incompetence which only leaves bias and malice.

 

[marsh]

Please just get rid of it.

 

[WilliamBoo]

Bets ruined sports. It's that simple like this

 

[ManxBlue]

The more you watch the side view of fernandes punching the ball away its beyond staggering that they've concocted an excuse up to not give a pen. A ref can miss that in real time. you can not NOT give that with replay assistance.
I'm now honestly at a loss as to wether its incompetence or corruption.

Incompetence and corruption are of course not mutually exclusive. Either could variously apply.

 

[JelavicBrate2]

Once again it’s the people operating VAR who are the problem

While I agree with your point VAR is still the problem. Other than Clattenburgs performance in derby, all other mistakes were honest mistakes, now it's just blatant corruption. Rodri handball 2022, Gabriel Jesus handball 2024, deliberately showing wrong angle of tackle on Ashley Young 2025 and yesterday's debacle. Also addressing bias is harder now, when selecting refs. Issue of bias was once treated seriously, now people of obvious biases aren't challenged whatsoever. VAR should simply be got rid of, our goal that was disallowed last week wasn't a clear and obvious error. Had we scored in same circumstances as RS last week, they would of had a 10 minute check to disallow it. Its simply no longer an honest game anymore it's completely corrupt.

 

[bluenorthwarrior]

There's no way they will get rid of VAR. For all the errors and inconsistencies 19 of the 20 clubs voted to keep it when raised this season, and managers all seem to say they want it.

Shows a huge gulf between clubs and fans as it is clear most fans don't want it (for both it's failings and the corrosive effect on spontaneity and joy when watching).