Usmanov

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Well, one post, using bizarre and unrelated hypothetical heritage scenarios.
But then an actual great post, using cold hard facts, stats and analysis.

(The ones liking his posts are as much to blame to be fair, they only encourage him.)

Job tvoyu mat

 

[bluestevon]

You say Uzbekistan isn't and has never been Russia. A couple of hundred years of world history disagrees with you.

Here's an easy example for you from BBC world countries profiles:The country spent most of the past 200 years as part of Russia, and then the Soviet Union, before emerging as an independent nation in 1991.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-16218112

Have a read and let us know how it works out.

Errrm mare, you do understand the difference between being part of Russia and part of the Russian empire as it was back then? It's as ridiculous as thinking during the Raj that India was part of England because it was part of the British empire.

 

[bluestevon]

Hey 'Frank'

Ste is actually from Russia. Make of that what you will.

I think Frank is busy at typing into askjeeves 'Are Uzbeks Russians' mate

 

[Frank Halfcoate]

Hey 'Frank'

Ste is actually from Russia. Make of that what you will.

 

[Penno]

Frank is on the ropes

 

[bluestevon]

Well, one post, using bizarre and unrelated hypothetical heritage scenarios.
But then an actual great post, using cold hard facts, stats and analysis.

(The ones liking his posts are as much to blame to be fair, they only encourage him.)

Dunno why i am bothering, but here you go mate, for fairnes sake i used the same source ' the bbc' as you did

Uzbekistan profile - Timeline

• 31 January 2018

A chronology of key events

1st century BC - Central Asia, including present-day Uzbekistan, forms an important part of the overland trade routes known as the Great Silk Road linking China with the Middle East and imperial Rome.


7th-8th centuries - Arabs conquer the area and convert its inhabitants to Islam.

9th-10th centuries - Persian Samanid dynasty becomes dominant and develops Bukhara as important centre of Islamic culture. As it declines, Turkic hordes compete to fill the vacuum.

13th-14th centuries - Central Asia conquered by Genghis Khan and becomes part of Mongol empire.

14th century - Mongol-Turkic ruler Tamerlane establishes empire with Samarkand as its capital.

18th-19th centuries Rise of independent emirates and khanates of Bukhara, Kokand and Samarkand.

Russian influence
1865-76 - Russians take Tashkent and make it capital of Turkestan, incorporating vast areas of Central Asia. They also annex emirate of Bukhara and khanates of Samarkand, Khiva and Kokand.

1917 - Tashkent Soviet established following Bolshevik revolution in Russia.

1920 - Tashkent Soviet ousts emir of Bukhara and other khans.

1918-22 - New Communist rulers close down mosques and persecute Muslim clergy as part of secularization campaign.

1921-24 - Reorganisation of regional states results in the creation of Uzbekistan and its neighbours.

Resettlement of minorities
1930s - Soviet leader Stalin purges independent-minded Uzbek leaders, replacing them with Moscow loyalists.

1944 - Some 160,000 Meskhetian Turks deported from Georgia to Uzbekistan by Joseph Stalin.

1950s-80s - Cotton production boosted by major irrigation projects which, however, contribute to the drying up of the Aral Sea.

1966 - Devastating earthquake destroys much of capital Tashkent.

1970s-1980s - Uzbek Communist chief Sharaf Rashidov ensures the promotion of ethnic Uzbek over Russian officials. He falsifies cotton harvest figures in scandal exposed under Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev's policy of glasnost.

1989 - Islam Karimov becomes leader of Uzbek Communist Party.

Violent attacks take place against Meskhetian Turks and other minorities in the Fergana Valley. Nationalist movement Birlik founded.

Independence
1990 - Communist Party of Uzbekistan declares economic and political sovereignty. Islam Karimov becomes president.


Feel free to show me exactly where it was ever Russia?

 

[Connor]

What was your previous username Frank?

 

[Jc74]

Your cup finals on frank. Feck off and go and watch it

 

[bluestevon]

What was your previous username Frank?

Frank Halfcoate
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United vs rs game kicked off 14 mins ago, wonder if he will be back at half or full time?

 

[Blue_Berry]

Mate you do know that what pension schemes literally do is go around buying listed shares to get returns for their customers? Arsenal are a listed company. There shares are readily available on the stock exchange. It's quite different to Everton who are a basic Private Limited Company.

To suggest there is no one in the world out there who would like to buy one of the safest investments in Britain is utterly ridiculous.

Mate, you won't find a pension fund buying Everton shares or Arsenal shares. Why? Because 95% are owned by a very small number of individuals, so a) they are not liquid nor is there any price transparency, and b) because they would have absolutely no influence in the strategic management of the company. You simply can't compare it to having a stake in Facebook.

 

[Brisan123]

What money can be made??? Plus has any one in the states got the dosh or is interested in buying into Arsenal, I think not.

You’re right , the Americans have no interest in buying into premier league clubs
How do I know this ?
The Glazers and Gillette and Hicks told me

 

[ToffeeTim]

Mate, you won't find a pension fund buying Everton shares or Arsenal shares. Why? Because 95% are owned by a very small number of individuals, so a) they are not liquid nor is there any price transparency, and b) because they would have absolutely no influence in the strategic management of the company. You simply can't compare it to having a stake in Facebook.

No offence but that post is wrong on almost every level.

Firstly you can't compare Everton and Arsenal shares. One is a private company and one is public ie floated.

Also Kroenke owns a controlling stake in Arsenal so where has your 95% nonsense came from? It's not mathematically possible.

As for price transparency obviously everton ones aren't that obvious. But that's cause they are private. Arsenal shares are on the stock exchange. They are completely transparent. As for liquidity, to suggest there is no movement on the stock exchange is hilarious. It's almost like you're suggesting places like the City, and Wall Street don't exist??

99% of people in the world who buy securities do not have board room positions. Nor do they want them. Nor do they care. They speculate, they invest, they buy, they sell, they make money.

 

[Brisan123]

You say Uzbekistan isn't and has never been Russia. A couple of hundred years of world history disagrees with you.

Here's an easy example for you from BBC world countries profiles:The country spent most of the past 200 years as part of Russia, and then the Soviet Union, before emerging as an independent nation in 1991.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-16218112

Have a read and let us know how it works out.

The Irish spent 800 yrs as part of The British Empire
Not many Irish born people would call themselves British

 

[Brisan123]

Kroenke does not need to buy them. He controls Arsenal without them.

But he wants to buy them

 

[bluestevon]

The Irish spent 800 yrs as part of The British Empire
Not many Irish born people would call themselves British

Take that a step further mate, it'd be like them calling themselves English in fact