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I'd just like to say thanks, and fair comments from everyone. and I totally understand some people's mindsets that some of our fan base will mindlessly get behind anything with a them against us attitude. I'm probably guilty as charged with that too for some things. But I'm going to copy and paste something I wrote on RAWK about Suarez affair and football in general, because I'm sick to f*cking death of it all at times -


"Look, I'm not going to blame anyone for spouting s*ite because the oxygen is a little thinner from up on their moral pulpit. But you know what? I actually don't give a flying [Poor language removed] that he bit Ivanovic. I don't give a flying sh*te what he called Evra any more. I couldn't give a shiney sh*te if he pulled Fabio's hair, dived like Tom Daley, stamped on some [Poor language removed]'s foot or anything else that he might be accused of. Do you know why I feel like this? It's certainly not because I don't possess basic morals and scruples; it's because football doesn't. They allow people to get away with all sorts of sh*te week in and week out. Calling someone a traditional cultural colloquialism is the same as calling someone a ****ing black [Poor language removed] in football's eyes. Homophobia is worth a fine, although homophobic tweeting in an intentional offensive way is worth only £7,000 while doing it as an in-joke, no matter how daft it was, between two friends is worth a £10,000 fine. A player slipping while he goes to make a tackle is worth a three game ban while a lad deliberately jumping two footed onto another player is ok because a ref didn't think it was all that bad. Stamping on a player's chest not seen by the ref but caught on youtube complete with slo-mo and a boss techno soundrack is not worth punishing, but it's worth 4 games if you're Mario Balotelli. A yellow card is sufficient for a bite or is it a 10 game ban? Football and all the governing bodies, not just the FA, are a simmering cesspool of f*cking s*ite, and it's time we stopped judging football by the same moral yardsticks of every day life. Do you honestly think whether we throw one of our own to the wolves or condemn another player from a team for kicking a ball boy, or just shrug our shoulders to it all, anything meaningful is going to change? Pandora has well and truly opened her box of football morality so I'll just treat it as a separate entity to normal life now. Money, 24 hour media, twitter and bloggers, it's all a f*cking pantomine these days and I'm seriously considering jacking it all in, because the whole f*cking shebang doesn't measure up to my personal standards of morality, so why should I bother picking and choosing what bits do?"

I'm sorry but that is so RAWK it's unreal.

Exactly what I'd expect to have read on there post the Suarez affair. It's anything, literally anything to avoid dealing with the problems in-house. Doing away with morality in football would be very convenient for a team with the biggest snide in European football in their side. It's the FA's fault for being sh*t, it's the media, the bloggers. It's f*cking tiresome is what it is.
 
Mate i hate to try and educate you here, but do you know the origins of where that song came from and why it gets sung?

We sing it because of the way your club has acted over the last 2 seasons. We didn't sing it before then, and now we do. Speaks volumes. United fans might sing it for a different reason. We sing it because of all the stuff that's happened with Suarez etc etc it really is 'never your fault'.
 
I'm sorry but that is so RAWK it's unreal.

Exactly what I'd expect to have read on there post the Suarez affair. It's anything, literally anything to avoid dealing with the problems in-house. Doing away with morality in football would be very convenient for a team with the biggest snide in European football in their side. It's the FA's fault for being sh*t, it's the media, the bloggers. It's f*cking tiresome is what it is.

Hence 'never your fault'. How dare some of the ****s accuse us of Hillsboro chants after all the support we've given them down the years. Some of them would do anything to tarnish us, even using Hillsboro. Most of them have absolutely no connection to the city, and don't know anything about the two clubs and the relationship between them over the tradegy. These are the ones who write facebook status's like 'just going out shopping with my girlfriend ynwa jft96'. And their the same ones who try and use it against us. The ones that know, know. The ones that don't (a large ****ing section) can just do one.
 
Mate i hate to try and educate you here, but do you know the origins of where that song came from and why it gets sung?

Yeah, because that song wouldn't apply to any of your club's recent actions at all, would it? Evertonians haven't supported the campaign for justice at all have they? They couldn't possibly mean anything else could they?

Point scoring of the sad variety. Makes the "thanks" message seem a tad hollow doesn't it?
 
Macca my man

Your pals didn't like the holocaust of a human being comment much did they?

Can you tell Harinder his preview was sh*te too, and tell him to try and write it for Liverpool fans next time and not for us lot having a nosey.

Decent post about Heysel too by the way.

Cheers lid

Oh and give my love to everyone that passed on their best wishes
 
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We sing it because of the way your club has acted over the last 2 seasons. We didn't sing it before then, and now we do. Speaks volumes. United fans might sing it for a different reason. We sing it because of all the stuff that's happened with Suarez etc etc it really is 'never your fault'.

I get what your saying, but the reason some reds get so upset about it is because it was started by Mancs after that fop-headed tw*t Boris Johnson accused all people from Liverpool, not just Liverpool fans, of relishing in their "victim status" a number of years ago while blaming us for Hillsborough. It's what reds associate the song with, and they don't distinguish between the people singing it.
 
I get what your saying, but the reason some reds get so upset about it is because it was started by Mancs after that fop-headed tw*t Boris Johnson accused all people from Liverpool, not just Liverpool fans, of relishing in their "victim status" a number of years ago while blaming us for Hillsborough. It's what reds associate the song with, and they don't distinguish between the people singing it.

Nope, take the tinted specs off. Evertonians don't do Hillsborough chants. Any kopite with a brain would know what Evertonians mean by that song. It's point scoring.
 
I get what your saying, but the reason some reds get so upset about it is because it was started by Mancs after that fop-headed tw*t Boris Johnson accused all people from Liverpool, not just Liverpool fans, of relishing in their "victim status" a number of years ago while blaming us for Hillsborough. It's what reds associate the song with, and they don't distinguish between the people singing it.

They just don't like it being sung and them being reminded of how pathetic they've looked over the past couple of years or so. So SOME of them bring up Hillsboro to try and get it stopped. They know full well what we mean. ANYTHING to do with Hillsboro and Everton have always been there for LFC and their fans so its pretty sickening that some reds would accuse us of that especially when they know that's not what we're on about. They just don't like being badmouthed and would do anything, even using Hillsboro, to stop it. Absolute cultlike behaviour.
 
Macca my man

Your pals didn't like the holocaust of a human being comment much did they?

Can you tell Harinder his preview was sh*te too, and tell him to try and write it for Liverpool fans next time and not for us lot having a nosey.

Decent post about Heysel too by the way.

Cheers lid

Oh and give my love to everyone that passed on their best wishes


ha ha, I reckon you got slated the most to be honest mate. I enjoyed what you wrote anyway. It's all just a bit of a laugh for me anyway. If you're in the upper kemlyn at the weekend you can tell H yourself though, he's ****ing massive :lol:
 
ha ha, I reckon you got slated the most to be honest mate. I enjoyed what you wrote anyway. It's all just a bit of a laugh for me anyway. If you're in the upper kemlyn at the weekend you can tell H yourself though, he's ****ing massive :lol:

Haha I'll bring the Goat, he'll look after me.
 
Nope, take the tinted specs off. Evertonians don't do Hillsborough chants. Any kopite with a brain would know what Evertonians mean by that song. It's point scoring.

You're preaching to the converted though. I was trying to answer a question on behalf of someone that I don't even know on why they might be offended. Every proper red that I know knows the score concerning proper blues. I'm not trying to score points by telling you why they might be offended, I'm trying to think of reasons why they might be, not to justify it. F*cks sake, I've said already half my family are blue so I've got no particular truck with you except twice a year. The problem seems to be one of generalisations. A few people complain that it's about Hillsborough, and suddenly its "you lot said it's about Hillsborough", a few people said Suarez wasn't wrong to bite and suddenly "none of you lot will accept that he's a ****", Patrice Evra and the FA went out of their way to categorically state that he was not a racist and suddenly it's "you f*ckers won't even have it that he's a dirty racist." I gave an honest answer about why I couldn't give a [Poor language removed] about all things FA and football related and it's "you lot on RAWK" I wasn't speaking on behalf of RAWK, I'm speaking as someone who said he's a cock for doing what he did and should have had a 6 game ban, but I'm sick to the back teeth of the FA not standing by their own precedent, which was a 5 game ban. I also admitted being a hypocrite and saying that if he played for anyone else, I'd have happily seen him banned for longer. The biggest hypocrites of all are the ones who can't even admit to it. Loads of people have claimed that if Suarez played for them, they'd want him sold or banned for life. I'm sorry, I'm not having it for one second. It's easier to be holier than thou when it's someone else's player. when it's your own though, you have double standards. It's not a conspiracy to say that the FA are bumbling f*ckwits. Better men than me in football and journalism think they are too. do I think everything is a Manc conspiracy? Maybe if I was 11 in the head. To be honest if anyone thinks some sad tw*t on facebook or a forum is representative of the matchgoing support, then they're very much mistaken. I'm not representative of anyone. My views are my own. If anyone agrees with them it makes them just as much a cynical fed up f*cker as me, not joined to me by the hip in a big conspiracy.
 
I like this macca lid, decent head whilst still proud to support his team. Most of us obviously are going to disagree with his views on certain stuff (except the facts like), but let's keep him around eh?
 
This is getting silly. It is only a game, it only was and only ever will be. Nothing is more important than showing respect to people who have lost their lives or family who have lost someone they will miss for the rest of theirs, whether you are from Kensington or Mars it matters not.

Chanting anything that could deeply upset someone who has lost a love one is a c*nts trick end of story
 
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