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tsubaki said:
Not sure about that TBF - it does assume that the US could get such a force there in time if a reunification attempt was made by military means and I am not sure that has ever been the case.

The biggest deterrent was probably the economic impact, which is why the sort of de-coupling that the idiots who rule us are mouthing about now could actually make an invasion more likely.
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Well they're not sending a response force through Russian aerospace that's for sure.

Our economic reposnses are sorely lack that's for sure.
 
Yarrgh said:
Well they're not sending a response force through Russian aerospace that's for sure.

Our economic reposnses are sorely lack that's for sure.
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Honestly I wish we'd have taken on the BRI as a concept and said that it would make sense to have production occur at both ends (and in the middle), to prevent the sort of bottlenecks we saw in 2020-22 rather than it all coming from the PRC. After all that talk of win-win benefits it would be hard to oppose, and all the rest of the BRI states would have probably agreed given the local jobs and technology that would result.

Instead you have the likes of Truss pretending that the West will have some competing thing, without specifying what it was or why it would work. We'd be much better off funding renewables all over the place.
 
devogue said:
Don't America have a bunch of soldiers stationed in Japan for the very reason of defending Taiwan? + a load of naval assets.
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They would not be enough - the PRC could basically assign its entire navy and AF to the invasion and supporting roles; such is the benefit of geography in that case. The US Navy is massive but it has two oceans to be concerned about, the Chinese only have one and Taiwan is 80 miles away.

Any relieving force probably wouldn't even get there, never mind get there quickly enough. I cannot see how that invasion would be stopped, except for it being noticed in time and the Taiwanese "finding" that "someone" had left a package containing deployable battlefield nukes on their doorstep one morning (and then telling the PRC about that).
 
tsubaki said:
They would not be enough - the PRC could basically assign its entire navy and AF to the invasion and supporting roles; such is the benefit of geography in that case. The US Navy is massive but it has two oceans to be concerned about, the Chinese only have one and Taiwan is 80 miles away.

Any relieving force probably wouldn't even get there, never mind get there quickly enough. I cannot see how that invasion would be stopped, except for it being noticed in time and the Taiwanese "finding" that "someone" had left a package containing deployable battlefield nukes on their doorstep one morning (and then telling the PRC about that).
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I think it would be noticed though. I've read that the Chinese would have to conduct the largest naval operation of all time to attack Taiwan which would surely be noticed by US satellites when hundreds of Chinese ships start gathering together.
 
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devogue said:
I think it would be noticed though. I've read that the Chinese would have to conduct the largest naval operation of all time to attack Taiwan which would surely be noticed by US satellites when hundreds of Chinese ships start gathering together.
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I suppose it depends how they go about it - personally I doubt they'd be that obvious, but you never know.

I think Xi would much prefer some kind of domestic reunification movement, but I suppose that would have to wait for the US to withdraw, be weakened and/or discredited globally - one or more which is likely to happen in the next ten years, I think (given Trump and the division over there).
 
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devogue said:


'goodwill gesture' lol

Apparently the evacuating garrison hit a mine on the way out as well
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Yarrgh said:
Looking where it is on the map, it was another act of folly by Russia to try and occupy it. At least here they wasted resources on an empty island and is now nowhere near innocent people.

It's a good thing that Russian forces are seemingly run by buffoons.
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Yup they really are a bunch of scruffs
 
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