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[Deleted member 48881]

 

[AndyC]

TBF those aren't all bizarre Russian stereotypes - the bit about trying to prevent a strong state in Europe is broadly a historical fact (and more famously a Yes, Prime Minister joke), and we really do import most of our white fish from the Russian fishing fleet. We all know how much of our government is public-school educated too. Of course the policy about strong states in Europe is not only ours - the Russians have had that for centuries too (since Russia is usually the target of said strong state).

Also they are not wrong that a lot of the hardest-sounding (and most potentially unhelpful) rhetoric is coming from our government, and the reason why that is could be very concerning - I mean, if you think (as Truss, Johnson and a few others have said) that Putin's Russia is what they repeatedly say it is then why is there such a complete lack of any increase in the size and capability of our military? A lot of EU states have announced the start of increased defence spending, whilst we haven't even reversed the (now clearly overtaken by events) cuts yet, four months after alarm bells started going off and two months after the war started.

I really worry that our government are saying these things to distract from domestic political squabbles (and even to pre-position themselves for potential succession squabbles), rather than in order to genuinely deal with this crisis. I also profoundly worry it seems to be working too - so many papers and commentators are saying how well Johnson et al have done in defence terms during this crisis, when (based on publicly available information) there is very little evidence to back that up.

Some rather astute observations here folks... remember these words when it comes around to casting your vote in the local and next general elections !!!!

 

[ds3000]

I don't disagree, hence why I said I didn't feel it was appropriate. However, it's not a linear, 2D dimensional thing as we from afar may see it as.

There are posters on here who live much closer to the conflict than ourselves, potentially having lived under Russia's sphere themselves or their family.

Whether we agree with it or not, this will likely impact on their perspective. If you ask a Pole or Czech, they'll possibly be far more invested in this.

So it boils back to the same point - celebrating the success of Ukraine and its army is not automatically revelling in the deaths of individual Russians.

Rightly or wrongly, the way that some will celebrate that success may come across as awkward and wrong to some, but for others it may not. It's down to circs.

It's the same with the argument with tunes but over the videos, with the reasoning behind it being the target audience as it's ultimately propaganda.

Ukrainians will often like it; the further people move away, the more unpleasant it will come across. Every country at war has done something similar.

I hear you mate

 

[Tramps_mate]

I hope you are correct. He has almost 6000 nuclear missiles. This is the most frightening time for the world ever.

Those is no where near the cold war. We were seconds from annihilating each other back then..

 

[Tramps_mate]

Blimey. lol

In all honesty he's mainly correct about how the British 'aristocracy' think...

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Ukraine’s Intelligence Directorate: Transnistria prepares appeal to Putin on 2 May

Roman Petrenko – Sunday, 1 May 2022, 11:00

www.pravda.com.ua

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

The military commander is obliged to "awaken hatred for the enemy." Schoolchildren are told about the heroism of employees of state television channels and the rules for sorting the wounded

Военкор обязан «пробуждать ненависть к врагу». Школьникам рассказывают о героизме сотрудников гостелеканалов и правилах сортировки раненых

Российским школьникам продолжают доказывать, что война в Украине — это правильно. Учителя должны проводить уроки, целью ...

zona.media

 

[PhilM]

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

He was the Russian 2IC. No mention of him on any comms intercepts since the strike. That leaves just Gerasimov running the show.

 

[Yarrgh]

Definitely assisted with intelligence from the west. Whilst I don't condone anyone being killed, get rid of enough of the people in charge and this could come to a halt quite quickly.

 

[peteblue]

Some rather astute observations here folks... remember these words when it comes around to casting your vote in the local and next general elections !!!!

I knew it would be Boris’ fault for Russia invading Ukraine…I’m just surprised that Brexit wasn’t mentioned or the increase in national insurance …….

 

[tsubaki]

I knew it would be Boris’ fault for Russia invading Ukraine…I’m just surprised that Brexit wasn’t mentioned or the increase in national insurance …….

You didn't even read it did you

 

[lorens]

I'm from ukraine, went through a bit of hell in march. Life here now is like in a computer game
Still can’t believe that this can happen in the 21st century and you can’t get used to it.

If Boris were nominated here for the presidency of Ukraine, 95% of the population would vote for him

 

[Goat]

I'm from ukraine, went through a bit of hell in march. Life here now is like in a computer game
Still can’t believe that this can happen in the 21st century and you can’t get used to it.

If Boris were nominated here for the presidency of Ukraine, 95% of the population would vote for him

He hates forens mate.