Current Affairs Ukraine

[Charro]

I’m not sticking up for the soviets, like I said there all as bad as each other, us included and there is always two sides to every story. It’s not as cut and dry as people in here like to believe or how the western media portray it.

I’am glad you are here to tell us this.

Very enlightening.

 

[Tommy.]

So, the story with the Moskva is that the Ukrainians distracted the ships RADAR tracking with a drone on the starboard side and hit it with 2 neptune missiles on the port side. Shockingly the primary air defence RADAR only had a 180 degree FoV!


Also, @CharliePotato, could you take your low tier wummery out of this thread please, it really isn't the place for your inane musings.

 

[CharliePotato]

I’am glad you are here to tell us this.

Very enlightening.

Cheers mate, knew you was a fan.

 

[CharliePotato]

So, the story with the Moskva is that the Ukrainians distracted the ships RADAR tracking with a drone on the starboard side and hit it with 2 neptune missiles on the port side. Shockingly the primary air defence RADAR only had a 180 degree FoV!


Also, @CharliePotato, could you take your low tier wummery out of this thread please, it really isn't the place for your inane musings.

Cool story.

Never in my life have I seen a radar with 180 FoV.

Even stern radars have more, majority of X and S band radars have blind spots but never that much.

 

[tsubaki]

So, the story with the Moskva is that the Ukrainians distracted the ships RADAR tracking with a drone on the starboard side and hit it with 2 neptune missiles on the port side. Shockingly the primary air defence RADAR only had a 180 degree FoV!


Also, @CharliePotato, could you take your low tier wummery out of this thread please, it really isn't the place for your inane musings.

Don’t know if anyone else watches them, and there is a huge caveat (that it’s a computer game simulation not real life), but the DCS / YouTube streamers “Grim Reapers” tried to recreate the sinking of the Moskva and were able to suggest that by itself against a very low flying missile it was surprisingly vulnerable (its main anti-air / anti-missile system couldn’t see the missiles quickly enough due to curvature of the earth, leaving its backup and CIWS as the only defence). This was against the missile that the Ukrainians based the Neptune on as well, not their upgraded version.

The full video is here for those with any interest:



DCS is a Russian made game by the way and seems to be fairly accurate in terms of the effectiveness of their SAMs.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I’m not sticking up for the soviets, like I said there all as bad as each other, us included and there is always two sides to every story. It’s not as cut and dry as people in here like to believe or how the western media portray it.

But everyone knows this. Not a soul on here thinks the west or Ukraine are without blame, that does not stop the fact that innocent men, women and children are being killed in this war.

You seem obsessed with making it into a “what-aboutery” thing, we all know the west invaded Iraq, it changes eff all about today’s situation. You need to stop waffling in about, it’s cheap.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

I’m not sticking up for the soviets, like I said there all as bad as each other, us included and there is always two sides to every story. It’s not as cut and dry as people in here like to believe or how the western media portray it.

Where do you get your next level info from, then?

 

[CharliePotato]

Where do you get your next level info from, then?

I work with a lot from both sides, have friends from both sides and see both side of media reports.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

I work with a lot from both sides, have friends from both sides and see both side of media reports.

Can you link me some of these media reports?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I work with a lot from both sides, have friends from both sides and see both side of media reports.

Do you drive a lorry?

 

[PhilM]

I work with a lot from both sides, have friends from both sides and see both side of media reports.

I have de ja vu with a similar post by Comrade Kev.

 

[Charro]

Can you link me some of these media reports?

Do these people ever, ever provide links when asked?

At best, we’ll get something from RT, then he’ll say the BBC is worse for propanganda when he gets told what RT is.

 

[PhilM]

The response by Russia signals that Ukraine actually sank the Moskva: in the past two days, they've used their depleted stocks of Kalibr PGMs.

 

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@TheBigBaldy
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@TheBigEasy was his last one. Very creative is our Barry

 

[CharliePotato]

Do you drive a lorry?

A ship.