Current Affairs Ukraine

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Really good "Front Line" on PBS (American TV, not sure if in UK) on Putin's road to war in the Ukraine. Puts to bed, in my opinion, the idea that Zelensky or any prior Ukraine administration could have done any negotiation toward an agreement to prevent the invasion. The show does a deep dive piecing all bits together suggesting this was inevitable (but also a major over-reach).

At this point, Putin is Colonel Kurtz operating without authority in Cambodia. We need a Captain Willard!
 
Quite. But the Oxford mob have at least proved the physics, and have serious PE backing.

But that is the absolute limit of my knowledge!
Raised eyebrow at Oxford mob. JET and eventually ITER in France should get there if anything can. China are fairly advanced, and probably more than us.

All based on the Russian tokamak principles.

All of which is probably why we'd be much better off working together.

I was talking to a 55 year old at work who doesn't think we'll see it in his lifetime. I think that it's a good possibility.
 
I just can't see this not escalating, the Russians are saying some worrying stuff now. The Poles won't take lightly to some of the rhetoric being spouted about de-nazifying them. Worrying but WW3 is on an edge if you ask me, the Russian hierarchy are unstable.

Hope I'm over exaggerating, be glad if others can shut me down on this.
 
What exactly does Putin hope to achieve by this invasion ? Surely not land as Russia is the biggest sovereign country in the world bigger than USA China India Australia It’s surely not mineral resources as Russia has huge reserves of oil gas minerals which gives them economic power So it must be political motivation and stopping NATO encroachment which can easily be resolved surely Ukraine says we will not join NATO and that allows Putin to save face as I think it’s a lot down to ego.
Russia must have been planning this invasion for at least 10 years but to what end ? I really can’t see what they gain from bombing Ukraine cities to rubble and killing innocents
Do they have a wider agenda for Poland and the Baltic states ? Is China aligned with them as part of an even bigger global geo political ambition ?
How can they occupy a country the size of Ukraine even if they do conquer it ? I really wonder what they hope to actually ultimately achieve ?
Any thoughts ?
 
I just can't see this not escalating, the Russians are saying some worrying stuff now. The Poles won't take lightly to some of the rhetoric being spouted about de-nazifying them. Worrying but WW3 is on an edge if you ask me, the Russian hierarchy are unstable.

Hope I'm over exaggerating, be glad if others can shut me down on this.
NATO are strengthening their borders. They are starting to say what they think is unacceptable enough for intervention (no chemical warfare) and giving Ukraine assistance enough to thoroughly destress* Russia's efforts. In my view, Ukraine is being used as a time buffer for NATO to ready up such that there is no further escalation up to WW3.

Big question now is how long does this go on for and how much can Russia can take over and by what methods - independent states, ceding of lands, international recognition of Russian sovereignty over areas such as Crimea, and/or a tame government in charge.

I think all sides should be resigned to not getting total control of what they want here.

*to avoid another inappropriate word warning.
 
I just can't see this not escalating, the Russians are saying some worrying stuff now. The Poles won't take lightly to some of the rhetoric being spouted about de-nazifying them. Worrying but WW3 is on an edge if you ask me, the Russian hierarchy are unstable.

Hope I'm over exaggerating, be glad if others can shut me down on this.
Indeed,

Some alarming rhetoric being pumped out by Russian state media. Constant references to NATO and the west being an existential threat to Russia. This follows on the heals of the Russian governments threat to use Nukes if they felt the very existence of Russia was threatened.
 
NATO are strengthening their borders. They are starting to say what they think is unacceptable enough for intervention (no chemical warfare) and giving Ukraine assistance enough to thoroughly destress* Russia's efforts. In my view, Ukraine is being used as a time buffer for NATO to ready up such that there is no further escalation up to WW3.

Big question now is how long does this go on for and how much can Russia can take over and by what methods - independent states, ceding of lands, international recognition of Russian sovereignty over areas such as Crimea, and/or a tame government in charge.

I think all sides should be resigned to not getting total control of what they want here.

*to avoid another inappropriate word warning.

Maybe it's just my view but i'm inclined to take the same view as Terrarian in the previous post. I see this
as a precursor to an escalation. It might be a show of unity and a deterrent, to further advances by Russia, but it is also moves on a chess board (I know very little about chess).

As for your last point, no chance. You look at what has happened to Ukraine and their people. Their loss will not be in vein. The only outcome is where Putin is resigned to not getting control of what he wants, or is taken out by force.
 
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