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I think the world has been fundamentally changed from the day Ukraine was invaded.

This was a decision that is going to significantly affect the world for the next 100 years if not longer.

And if Russia go into a NATO country it will be Germany going into Belgium in WW1 all over again.

Putin will now go down as one of history's greatest monsters.
 
I think the world has been fundamentally changed from the day Ukraine was invaded.

This was a decision that is going to significantly affect the world for the next 100 years if not longer.

And if Russia go into a NATO country it will be Germany going into Belgium in WW1 all over again.

Putin will now go down as one of history's greatest monsters.
The admiration for him among the right wing in the west certainly mirrors previous monsters
 

Once again Russian's government is voicing its desire to pick a fight with NATO. If a confrontation with NATO is looking more inevitable then why not to help Ukraine and call Putin on his bluff. Putin is a bully and we are just letting him intimidate us with his threats. There has to be a time that NATO should say we have had enough of him and stand up to the bully before he endangers more lives. Because we are fool to think this conflict is only about Ukrainians suffering, when millions of people around the world are going to be affected by Putin's senseless war.
 
This is the problem with that line of thinking though - the use of nuclear weapons by Russia would guarantee their defeat, not avoid it.

If Putin uses nukes, it's because he knows he's defeated and he wants to take as many people down with him.
I am in no way suggesting it is likely that he will use them, but I am suggesting that if NATO intervene, it is a possibility that he will use them.
There is only one man who knows with 100% certainty whether he would or not.
 
More on this story from an article on The NY Times.

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LVIV, Ukraine — One day after the mayor of Melitopol in southern Ukraine had a hood thrown over his head and was dragged from a government office building by Russian forces, according to Ukrainian officials, hundreds of people poured out into the streets on Saturday in an expression of outrage and defiance.

“Return the mayor!” they shouted, witnesses said and videos showed. “Free the mayor!”

But nearly as soon as people gathered, the Russians moved to shut them down, arresting a woman who they said had organized the demonstration, according to two witnesses and the woman’s Facebook account.

The episode is part of what Ukrainian officials say is a pattern of intimidation and repression that is growing more brutal. It also illustrates a problem that Russia is likely to face even if it manages to pummel cities and towns into submission: In at least some of the few cities and towns that Russia has managed to seize — mostly in the south and east — they are facing popular unrest and revolt.

President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine sought to tap into public rage in an address to the nation overnight.

“The whole country saw that Melitopol did not surrender to the invaders,” he said. “Just as Kherson, Berdyansk and other cities where Russian troops managed to enter didn’t — temporarily managed to enter. And this will not be changed by putting pressure on mayors or kidnapping mayors.”

After people took to the streets, he praised their courage in a speech later Saturday. “Do you hear it, Moscow?” he asked. “If 2,000 people are protesting against the occupation in Melitopol, how many people should be in Moscow against the war?”
Melitopol lies only a short distance from Crimea, which Russia annexed in 2014. The city came under fierce assault on the first day of the war, Feb. 24, and Russian soldiers entered only days later. While the city fell, the mayor, Ivan Fyodorov, remained defiant.

“We are not cooperating with the Russians in any way,” he said.

As resistance has grown more brazen, the Russian tactics have grown more brutal, according to the Ukrainian government and witness testimony. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine claimed on Friday that Russian soldiers were committing robberies, taking hostages and executing civilians. The claims of executions and hostage taking could not be independently verified, but there have been multiple witness accounts, often recorded on video, of Russian soldiers looting stores and homes.

Mr. Zelensky said the kidnapping of the mayor was part of a broader shift in tactics. “They have switched to a new stage of terror, when they are trying to physically eliminate representatives of the legitimate local Ukrainian authorities,” he said.
Last weekend, people waving the blue and gold of the Ukrainian flag took to the streets of Melitopol and other occupied cities.
For the most part, Russian soldiers stood aside, even as protesters commandeered a Russian armored vehicle in one town and drove it through the streets.

Mr. Fyodorov encouraged the demonstration. In his most recent post on Facebook, he thanked business leaders who were helping the community in the moment of strife. “Together we will overcome anything!” he wrote.
His location is now unknown.
 
Slightly off topic, but just been talking to a mate, who works at the Jaguar Land Rover plant in Halewood. Apparently they are about to run out of certain parts, that are made in Belarus and Ukraine, which would halt the production line and there`s talk of switching production and sending a load of the workforce to the plant in Wolverhampton, to help clear the waiting list for cars there :eek:
 
Slightly off topic, but just been talking to a mate, who works at the Jaguar Land Rover plant in Halewood. Apparently they are about to run out of certain parts, that are made in Belarus and Ukraine, which would halt the production line and there`s talk of switching production and sending a load of the workforce to the plant in Wolverhampton, to help clear the waiting list for cars there :eek:

Send them to Ukraine.
 
It would take literally days, if not hours for NATO to disable them..
It'd be Russia taking the Ukrainian position. But hopefully without the attacking civilians or committing war crimes and just the destruction of their military.

If history has taught us anything, invading Russia is normally a bad idea. They'd burn their own house to deny their enemy it, which doesn't forebode well for Ukraine.
 
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A screenshot from a video posted on the Shvabra (‘Mop’) Telegram channel on March 4, 2022, showing a Task Force Rusich fighter giving a Nazi salute.

The Russians are using the Wagner Group. Their leader is covered in Nazi tattoos!
 
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