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So infuriating when your own family believe Russian state TV rather than their relatives that are on the ground...


TBF that might be overstated (although people blindly believing the news is obviously a thing); I mean it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that someone might be listening to calls, especially from Ukraine.
 


Hmm is there a mole in the Russian camp?

That's treason. Lefortovo will have some new "guests" soon.

TBF that might be overstated (although people blindly believing the news is obviously a thing); I mean it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that someone might be listening to calls, especially from Ukraine.
Yeah, I'm betting that's what's going on. Acknowledging reality on the ground will be punishable by fifteen-year jail term soon enough.
 
Okay, I'll bite. Every NATO leader?

Even, say, the Albanian Prime Minister Edi Rama?
Yes. Unless every nato leader denounce the organisation they are apart of. Usa and subsequently nato break international law everyday for decades. War crimes. They technically need to be stopped under international law.

But they have a tyrannical grip on the world predominantly the west. The people need to take action. Its our duty as civilians of these countries to overthrow the tyranny.

It will help then to denounced nato and usa and call for them to be tried for war crimes and subsequent governments toppled and nato abolished. Then I would not have issue with thier concern for the Ukrainian people.

If you call for the overthrow of these governments that perpetuate this nato alliance and call to punish all governments through the decades withholding to it...

Then I'm behind you if you are concerned about Ukraine too.

Cause so am I.
 
Yes. Unless every nato leader denounce the organisation they are apart of. Usa and subsequently nato break international law everyday for decades. War crimes. They technically need to be stopped under international law.

But they have a tyrannical grip on the world predominantly the west. The people need to take action. Its our duty as civilians of these countries to overthrow the tyranny.

It will help then to denounced nato and usa and call for them to be tried for war crimes and subsequent governments toppled and nato abolished. Then I would not have issue with thier concern for the Ukrainian people.

If you call for the overthrow of these governments that perpetuate this nato alliance and call to punish all governments through the decades withholding to it...

Then I'm behind you if you are concerned about Ukraine too.

Cause so am I.
So nobody is allowed to be concerned about an unprovoked invasion unless they agree with your worldview?
 


This air defense system left in working order, almost like the Russian soldiers left it for them to use.





More Russian vehicles captured and destroyed by the Ukrainian army??



And a fighter plane downed.

I have no clue how much equipment the Russian military has but they seem to be losing a lot of expensive kit, either destroyed or abandoned, every day. Cant go on forever like that?
 
Great. Everybody is equally evil.

How does that help this present situation?
It'll help to topple Russia. And not by nato and governments as such. Also more importantly topple this style of capitalistic 'democracies' in a working class (the people) overthrow.

And have real democracy. No one wants war as much as no one wants to live pay check to pay check and become a slave if they need medical care. And all the rest of the domestic issues.
 
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TBF that might be overstated (although people blindly believing the news is obviously a thing); I mean it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that someone might be listening to calls, especially from Ukraine.

My wife has family inside Crimea and they parrot back the same kind of rubbish which in turn along with what her parents see on channel 1 (they watch a lot of that in Armenia) makes them think the same.

The Russians are probably listening but in that case if it was your relative instead of focusing on the reasons for war and what they are and aren't doing, just show compassion. Not they aren't targeting civilians and you'll be liberated soon.

Anyone over the age of say 55 who hasn't had a lot of exposure outside of Russia to look on in at how they report items are brainwashed fools who lap this up and all seem to look back misty eyed to when the soviet union existed.
 
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