Current Affairs Ukraine

[bluebud]

Maybe not for everyone to view, but if it’s a Russian convoy as it appears then UTFU!

The guy speaking is Ukrainian territorial defense (home guard) he says it’s a Chechen unit.

 

[Tin-Tin]

 

[Mrk]

Isn't this what everyone said it was when he amassed troops at the border, though? Posturing?

Err, no? Exactly the opposite was said. The West were warning of an invasion for weeks.

 

[BlueTX]

I mean, Trump clearly has a well thought through position on how he’d tackle the problem.

Like how he was going to build a wall with Mexican money and eliminate the deficit, cuz he's the only one who can do it and it'll be so, so easy.

Remember when we were going to get tired of so much "winning"?

Clown.

 

[wm02]

Time to take the pill, Vlad

 

[DualityNSNO]

Err, no? Exactly the opposite was said. The West were warning of an invasion for weeks.

The thing is, the west were warning of an invasion for weeks.

For an invasion-prep that started almost year(s?) ago.

This was a known possibility since probably before Crimea.

 

[Mrk]

The thing is, the west were warning of an invasion for weeks.

For an invasion-prep that started almost year(s?) ago.

This was a known possibility since probably before Crimea.

Undoubtably.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

If he doesn't win this war and fails miserably he might still get what he wants because Nato's boogieman is apparently a toothless lion.
Defeats the entire purpose

 

[DualityNSNO]

Undoubtably.

This is why people are annoyed at this slow response, purely because of money in the end, costing the lives of people.

You know there's a dictator preparing an attack at the door, saying "nah but he won't though, he promised" smells of gain-based interest.

 

[Mrk]

This is why people are annoyed at this slow response, purely because of money in the end, costing the lives of people.

You know there's a dictator preparing an attack at the door, saying "nah but he won't though, he promised" smells of gain-based interest.

I broadly agree - Ukraine has been failed by the West. Not because we haven't intervened militarily now - it's far too late and would result in a world war - but because we didn't give them the protection they asked for earlier.

 

[Kev The Rat]

I broadly agree - Ukraine has been failed by the West. Not because we haven't intervened militarily now - it's far too late and would result in a world war - but because we didn't give them the protection they asked for earlier.

I'm afraid the economic sanctions, coupled with the rhetoric, may be enough to ensure that happens regardless.

Putin clearly sees the economic sanctions alone as an act of war.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I broadly agree - Ukraine has been failed by the West. Not because we haven't intervened militarily now - it's far too late and would result in a world war - but because we didn't give them the protection they asked for earlier.

Exactly, and that's annoying and bad for obvious reasons, but it also gave Russia the confidence to think they're way too important and big, as basically by not helping Ukraine, the west/EU just went "we're here for the money, NATO is just a vehicle to secure funding".

 

[tsubaki]

I don't think he cares, mate.

He doesn’t, which is remarkable given the history of the country he leads.

 

[Kev The Rat]

He doesn’t, which is remarkable given the history of the country he leads.

Since when has Russia placed a high value on the lives of its people?

 

[Mrk]

I'm afraid the economic sanctions, coupled with the rhetoric, may be enough to ensure that happens regardless.

Putin clearly sees the economic sanctions alone as an act of war.

Maybe so, but Putin knows he would be decisively defeated in both a conventional or nuclear war. So it would be an act of suicide.