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I know about the withdrawal situation.

I also know that Biden instructed the military to abandon their posts in the dead of night leaving behind all manner of vehicles, supplies and weapons.

Thats Bidens failure and an act of cowardice on his part showing no stomafh and weakness. He could have had a staged withdrawal and INFORMED the allies in advance rather than sneaking out in the dead of night.

Following on from that, the US likes to see themselves as "Global police". It suits the narrative and is considered a 'friendly' country by most democratic countries.

Surely you cant see Biden as being a success in the past week or so? He basically told Putin hes fine to invade as long as its just a little...then said he wont speak with him and disappeared a fair amount when the world was watching.






Thats true. I mean surely theres a way to go into Belarus and take down their leader Lukashenko?

Thats a different kettle of fish to going straight into war with Putin.




Its called, the MAJORITY.
I’m starting to think Biden killed your dog,that’s the only reason I can give for your delusional hate towards him

Btw, he’s played a blinder, without doing anything drastic meanwhile, your favourite draft dodging bigot gave putin all the freedom he wanted
 
I'm not suggesting it couldn't be blown up, or that some deranged individual (on either side) wouldn't consider the idea, I was simply pointing out that the person (whoever it is) who said this:

"when the wind was in the right direction,blow the whole thing up and dose the Russians."

Has no idea what they are talking about. Like, not being horrible, but they literally have zero idea.

2 things to consider:
1) The wind changes direction regularly. It doesn't blow west for 3 days and then east for 3 days etc. So that premise is flawed.
2) If Chernobyl was blown up, it would spew radioactive waste for eternity until measures were taken to bring it under control (which would be practically impossible).

It's just nonsense.
Might? Yes they might.
Can? The Ukrainians were in control, so yes they can.
Would? Who knows...best take it just in case - prudent forward planning.
QED.
 
What that should tell you, Kev, is that if people really are that scared of Putin's regime, and I think they are, then those braving the streets are just the tip of the iceberg.

Also, the tone of your posting comes across as if you are for some reason trying to act as Putin's mouthpiece on GOT, which I have to say is rather strange.
.... and people are still doing it, Kev. That is the point you are missing.
They still are, and I'd love to be agreeing with you both here - it'd be great if it does the thing it is aimed to do.

As ridiculous as it might be, Kev is not necessarily wrong - people are doing it, but the same people are being detained/beaten/worse etc. as Russia is not a democracy and never has been - these protests, if big enough, can get ugly and I have absolutely no doubt they'd call in the tanks which remained "for defense purposes" in all the big cities where things usually go wrong.

The big "if" would be if the army turns against the state, then it's game over for Putin. Before that, he holds the cards, he has gulags and jails, protesters can fill them up very easily, thus repeating the fearmongering endlessly.
 
Expecting Ukrainian leaders to go Belarus or even Moscow for 'talks', even Admiral Ackbar would see that one coming!
Yeah, but honestly expected. Also expected is they don't budge and just remain adamant that they "were ready to talk all along"...

Mhm, yes, just sit on this electric chair and we can talk, fellow Ukrainians. It is all peaceful haha yes.
 
They haven't yet, Russia just keeps offering it to Ukraine.

Israel said they'd mediate if needed, but SHOCKINGLY Russia wants to do anything on their own territory, on their own terms.
Israel offering mediation is disgusting
That they think they qualify to mediate anything other than war crimes themselves is a joke
 
You aren’t appearing patronising, you are just appearing wrong.

If the Russian regime, with all the things you describe there already in place for years beforehand, is having to send that message out less than a week after launching this war then that can only mean it thinks there are enough people it needs to scare. Otherwise why do it?
great oaks from little acorns grow

All dictatorships look at the above, and fear this could happen

Their instincts tell them to quash anything that can affect their aims… quickly

It’s what gets them into power, and usually keeps them in power
 
I don’t want to appear patronising but please try and avoid viewing Russian society by the standards we hold here. Crackdowns, restrictions, murder, imprisonment these are what makes the system tick.

This latest restriction is standard practice and nothing out of the ordinary
You're doing that thing again where your baseline assumptions (upon which your arguments are based) are being delivered as though they're facts, when really they're pure conjecture.

I have friends who I work with who are currently at home visiting relatives (or have literally just come back) in St Petersberg and Novosibirsk, who both noted that the Kremlin haven't been able to control this narrative as well as they have others in the past.

One of them said that against a backdrop of economic turmoil after unprecedented sanctions, we can't assume anything when it comes to this ending in a potential regime change at some point in the near-medium term; their justification being that it's a lot easier to quell discontent when people are at least fed with a minimum quality of life guaranteed, but as others have alluded to in the thread, when a society can no longer envision a future better than the present, the pressure of the dam can eventually break.

tl;dr - there's no need to be absolutist about things that are not absolute
 
Some Russian troll going on about UKR agreeing to talks on the other forum. Someone pls say this is fake

Ukie government agreed to negotiate in Gomel (Belarus). They were offered to talk since early in the morning, chose the place themselves, but then did not come for a while because of "secutiry considerations". The guy on the Russian side will be former Minister of Culture Medinsky - probably because he was born in Ukraine...
Who is going to be on the Ukrainian side and whether they will be adequate counterparts remains to be seen.
Putin's spokesman said that (unlike yesterday) this time army advance will not be paused while negotiations are in the works.
 
I'm not suggesting it couldn't be blown up, or that some deranged individual (on either side) wouldn't consider the idea, I was simply pointing out that the person (whoever it is) who said this:

"when the wind was in the right direction,blow the whole thing up and dose the Russians."

Has no idea what they are talking about. Like, not being horrible, but they literally have zero idea.

2 things to consider:
1) The wind changes direction regularly. It doesn't blow west for 3 days and then east for 3 days etc. So that premise is flawed.
2) If Chernobyl was blown up, it would spew radioactive waste for eternity until measures were taken to bring it under control (which would be practically impossible).

It's just nonsense.
It keeps Belarus on side though. And keeps the whole of the Ukraine east of Kiev under control by implied threat.
 
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