Current Affairs Ukraine

[dublinbluenose]

Probably means they'll get the go ahead for Stormshadows as well

 

[bluestevon]

I’m sure you’ll be a willing volunteer for any Dads Army that’s formed during WW3.

If it escalated to world war three every person on the planet ceases to be.

Not sure people actually realise how close it actually is.

The shouts of it stops if Putin takes the troops home, actually it doesn't - it kicks the can down the road, and it's hyperbole anyway as it will clearly not happen, it was always primarily about the expansion of NATO into Ukraine, the surrounding of Russia, cutting off sea access and eventually dismantling Russia into small pieces. Even a brief search can turn up documents from the likes of RAND which show this intention.

If Putin was removed the person replacing would make you wish for Putin back - and I'm very serious about that, every single one of the Russian elite - pro Putin or neutral or even ones who just go along have always regarded the Ukraine as the red line, NATO cannot ever be allowed to expand into their is the truly held belief.

The director of the CIA stated so - many years ago in a memorandum called Nyet means Nyet when he clearly stated such.

Think some actually believe that Russia is just another Iraq or Egypt, were the west can just go in do the things they want and no consequences.

Seen lots and lots of comments here about civilians, maybe I'll check bs k to 2014 as a fair few of the posters date back to then, see how many commented about women, children and old people being burnt alive inside a trade union building in Odessa by Azov and the military with the police standing by and some participating.

Likewise see how many people deplored Poreshenko when president stating that the children of the Donbass will be forced to live in basements - a threat be lived up to with the constant shelling for 8 years. How many commented on the valley of angels which contains the names of the hundreds of children killed by the regime bombing their own cities?

My guess is not one person in this thread who is now concerned with the Ukrainian people cared a flying [Poor language removed] about them when it was the eastern Ukrainians being killed by their own people. Similarly when you cheer on orks being killed realise a huge number are actually from the Ukraine - but have russian descent - which frankly west of Galicea most Ukrainians do have.

As an aside btw, Arstevic former advisor to Zelensky released a video were he stated 200k Ukrainians returned to Mariople the past year - why are they returning to a murderous russian regime intent on genocide Vs Ukrainians and lots of these are returning from abroad - I personally know several families who returned from Georgia.

Do t expect any serious responses, I guess I hope they someone at least my think about all this and look up the history.

 

[COYBL25]

If it escalated to world war three every person on the planet ceases to be.

Not sure people actually realise how close it actually is.

The shouts of it stops if Putin takes the troops home, actually it doesn't - it kicks the can down the road, and it's hyperbole anyway as it will clearly not happen, it was always primarily about the expansion of NATO into Ukraine, the surrounding of Russia, cutting off sea access and eventually dismantling Russia into small pieces. Even a brief search can turn up documents from the likes of RAND which show this intention.

If Putin was removed the person replacing would make you wish for Putin back - and I'm very serious about that, every single one of the Russian elite - pro Putin or neutral or even ones who just go along have always regarded the Ukraine as the red line, NATO cannot ever be allowed to expand into their is the truly held belief.

The director of the CIA stated so - many years ago in a memorandum called Nyet means Nyet when he clearly stated such.

Think some actually believe that Russia is just another Iraq or Egypt, were the west can just go in do the things they want and no consequences.

Seen lots and lots of comments here about civilians, maybe I'll check bs k to 2014 as a fair few of the posters date back to then, see how many commented about women, children and old people being burnt alive inside a trade union building in Odessa by Azov and the military with the police standing by and some participating.

Likewise see how many people deplored Poreshenko when president stating that the children of the Donbass will be forced to live in basements - a threat be lived up to with the constant shelling for 8 years. How many commented on the valley of angels which contains the names of the hundreds of children killed by the regime bombing their own cities?

My guess is not one person in this thread who is now concerned with the Ukrainian people cared a flying [Poor language removed] about them when it was the eastern Ukrainians being killed by their own people. Similarly when you cheer on orks being killed realise a huge number are actually from the Ukraine - but have russian descent - which frankly west of Galicea most Ukrainians do have.

As an aside btw, Arstevic former advisor to Zelensky released a video were he stated 200k Ukrainians returned to Mariople the past year - why are they returning to a murderous russian regime intent on genocide Vs Ukrainians and lots of these are returning from abroad - I personally know several families who returned from Georgia.

Do t expect any serious responses, I guess I hope they someone at least my think about all this and look up the history.

Welcome back on board mate.

 

[davek]

Probably means they'll get the go ahead for Stormshadows as well

Creepy little Nosferatu.

 

[BlueToff]

Let's hope so.

They need to get Biden out of that Oval Office and into a secure unit ASAP. He's lost it completely now.

As if he's had any say, Dave.

Bloke hasn't known what day it is for three years.

(He'd still have more than 10 points from 11 games though).

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

If it escalated to world war three every person on the planet ceases to be.

Not sure people actually realise how close it actually is.

The shouts of it stops if Putin takes the troops home, actually it doesn't - it kicks the can down the road, and it's hyperbole anyway as it will clearly not happen, it was always primarily about the expansion of NATO into Ukraine, the surrounding of Russia, cutting off sea access and eventually dismantling Russia into small pieces. Even a brief search can turn up documents from the likes of RAND which show this intention.

If Putin was removed the person replacing would make you wish for Putin back - and I'm very serious about that, every single one of the Russian elite - pro Putin or neutral or even ones who just go along have always regarded the Ukraine as the red line, NATO cannot ever be allowed to expand into their is the truly held belief.

The director of the CIA stated so - many years ago in a memorandum called Nyet means Nyet when he clearly stated such.

Think some actually believe that Russia is just another Iraq or Egypt, were the west can just go in do the things they want and no consequences.

Seen lots and lots of comments here about civilians, maybe I'll check bs k to 2014 as a fair few of the posters date back to then, see how many commented about women, children and old people being burnt alive inside a trade union building in Odessa by Azov and the military with the police standing by and some participating.

Likewise see how many people deplored Poreshenko when president stating that the children of the Donbass will be forced to live in basements - a threat be lived up to with the constant shelling for 8 years. How many commented on the valley of angels which contains the names of the hundreds of children killed by the regime bombing their own cities?

My guess is not one person in this thread who is now concerned with the Ukrainian people cared a flying [Poor language removed] about them when it was the eastern Ukrainians being killed by their own people. Similarly when you cheer on orks being killed realise a huge number are actually from the Ukraine - but have russian descent - which frankly west of Galicea most Ukrainians do have.

As an aside btw, Arstevic former advisor to Zelensky released a video were he stated 200k Ukrainians returned to Mariople the past year - why are they returning to a murderous russian regime intent on genocide Vs Ukrainians and lots of these are returning from abroad - I personally know several families who returned from Georgia.

Do t expect any serious responses, I guess I hope they someone at least my think about all this and look up the history.

Let's all do what war criminal Putin wants

 

[dublinbluenose]

Creepy little Nosferatu.

Hey, I'm 6'2"

 

[davek]

As if he's had any say, Dave.

Bloke hasn't known what day it is for three years.

(He'd still have more than 10 points from 11 games though).

 

[davek]

Hey, I'm 6'2"

 

[Runub]

I dont think people are getting the message at all how close this is.

We're just one spark from it going off. And that will be it.

If WWIII breaks out do you think that would remove the threat of any further points deductions. Can’t see Dyche overcoming one this season

 

[bluestevon]

Let's all do what war criminal Putin wants

Almost comical to see you say that when the entire US government policy since 1990 has been openly do what we want or we will regime change you, invade you, bomb you, sanction you to oblivion. Regardless of how many we kill doing so or the chaos it brings.

See allbright stating 500k Iraqi children dying was a price worth paying.

Oh btw you are fully aware that the exact same people standing up saying we have to support the Ukraine due to our values, are the exact same people funding and supporting an actual genocide in Israel.

 

[bluestevon]

If WWIII breaks out do you think that would remove the threat of any further points deductions. Can’t see Dyche overcoming one this season

Only thing I hold into the hope of it not happening is that Everton won't win the league, if we ever do the world is up in smoke.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

There's a few trust issues going on, ain't there?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Almost comical to see you say that when the entire US government policy since 1990 has been openly do what we want or we will regime change you, invade you, bomb you, sanction you to oblivion. Regardless of how many we kill doing so or the chaos it brings.

See allbright stating 500k Iraqi children dying was a price worth paying.

Oh btw you are fully aware that the exact same people standing up saying we have to support the Ukraine due to our values, are the exact same people funding and supporting an actual genocide in Israel.

Whataboutery in full flow

 

[bluestevon]

Whataboutery in full flow

OH MY GOD! Never ever expected that response, but carry on.
Opinion on the Odessa trade union burning of innocent people by the Azov and right sector mate, valid because they were dirty ork supporting civilians?

Or an evil act of murder from absolute scum?