Current Affairs Ukraine

[Paulie]

That's exactly what's happening, giving Ukraine just enough so they don't lose but nowhere near enough to win. It's a decent gameplan from NATO after all the reason for NATO was to combat Russian aggression, Ukraine are doing this for them for a fraction of the cost... Russia are in a position now that they really aren't a threat to anyone anymore and for quite some time.

And seemingly using a lot of personnel so are struggling to fill jobs with a lot being dead, injured or fled the country.

 

[davids]

That's exactly what's happening, giving Ukraine just enough so they don't lose but nowhere near enough to win. It's a decent gameplan from NATO after all the reason for NATO was to combat Russian aggression, Ukraine are doing this for them for a fraction of the cost... Russia are in a position now that they really aren't a threat to anyone anymore and for quite some time.

Only problem with that is,they are losing.They are finally admitting it themselves.

 

[davids]

And seemingly using a lot of personnel so are struggling to fill jobs with a lot being dead, injured or fled the country.

Would seem some at least maybe have parents in high places,or café workers and musicians are protected status workers.

 

[Tipp blue]

Only problem with that is,they are losing.They are finally admitting it themselves.

Rapid gains? Come on they are still less than 170 miles from the Russian borders after 3 years, some of the men on the front line could drive to Russia for dinner and be back on the front by bed time. They may well take parts of Ukraine but as a military force Russia are done, almost every other country that borders Russia to it's west is now in NATO and that is a massive loss for Russia regardless of what happens in Ukraine. Intrest rates in Russia are now over 20% which isn't an indication that the economy is as good as the Kremlin would have you believe that's a loss...Russia has been sanctioned to death another loss, the no limits relationship with China, it would seem that there are limits and NK soldiers in Russia seem to be nearing one of those limits, Another loss, Belarus aren't coming across as very friendly to Russia right now Lukashenko called NK soldiers an escalation, another loss..... they are losing everywhere but you call a few miles of gains into Ukraine winning.

 

[davek]

According to the Washington Post Trump has told Outin not to escalate the war but has also said a deal could be done allowing Russia to keep some gained territory.

 

[davids]

Rapid gains? Come on they are still less than 170 miles from the Russian borders after 3 years, some of the men on the front line could drive to Russia for dinner and be back on the front by bed time. They may well take parts of Ukraine but as a military force Russia are done, almost every other country that borders Russia to it's west is now in NATO and that is a massive loss for Russia regardless of what happens in Ukraine. Intrest rates in Russia are now over 20% which isn't an indication that the economy is as good as the Kremlin would have you believe that's a loss...Russia has been sanctioned to death another loss, the no limits relationship with China, it would seem that there are limits and NK soldiers in Russia seem to be nearing one of those limits, Another loss, Belarus aren't coming across as very friendly to Russia right now Lukashenko called NK soldiers an escalation, another loss..... they are losing everywhere but you call a few miles of gains into Ukraine winning.

Think you'll find they are the words of the Ukrainian government backed YouTube channel,not mine. Maybe work on your comprehension skills?
You're so dim you think Ukrainian media is pro Russian.

 

[tantavisiteler]

Just read about Trump/Vance plan for Ukraine 2025 onwards. Not that bad actually. Could have been worse.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Think you'll find they are the words of the Ukrainian government backed YouTube channel,not mine. Maybe work on your comprehension skills?
You're so dim you think Ukrainian media is pro Russian.

Man throws up a counter argument, and all you have left are insults you lonely pissed stained flappy arsed potato.

 

[Tipp blue]

Think you'll find they are the words of the Ukrainian government backed YouTube channel,not mine. Maybe work on your comprehension skills?
You're so dim you think Ukrainian media is pro Russian.

I can think of absolutely no reason that the Ukrainian media would say this... unless it's a push for further funding and weapons.. no couldnt possibly be anything like that, keep up the current rapid gains they'll take Kiev in 80 years at the cost of 20 million men.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I've not yet seen a primary source for the supposed Rutte quote but it's a provocative step if true - re the US and NATO.

This is an interesting analysis of the situation we face with Russia, China et al for democracies.

Why do democracies pretend to be powerless?

Democracies must define 21st century power — for themselves, and for Ukrainian victory

www.greatpower.us

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Think you'll find they are the words of the Ukrainian government backed YouTube channel,not mine. Maybe work on your comprehension skills?
You're so dim you think Ukrainian media is pro Russian.

It’s a video produced by a Journo to keep the Ukrainian plight in the mainstream media. To illicit clicks and views.

You just have to be able to read through the lines. Some (like you) will take it at face value.

Is Ukraine struggling? Yes. Russia is pushing hard to make gains on the Eastern front.

Is Russia’s Struggling? Yes. They’ve lost over 700,000 men and thousands of tanks, armoured vehicles, aircraft and ships.

Let’s have a bit of balance eh?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

According to the Washington Post Trump has told Outin not to escalate the war but has also said a deal could be done allowing Russia to keep some gained territory.

Please provide the link for the direct quote about Russia being allowed to keep territory.

Funny that no other media outlet is reporting that statement as part of the Trump-Putin telephone call.

 

[davek]

Please provide the link for the direct quote about Russia being allowed to keep territory.

Funny that no other media outlet is reporting that statement as part of the Trump-Putin telephone call.

Well I read it here on the Guardian site and cant get through the Washington Post firewall to get the report. But, yeah, shoot the messenger...

 

[davek]

Apparently Mark Rutte has just said if Trump surrenders Ukraine to Putin the US are expelled from NATO.