Current Affairs Ukraine

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Yarrgh said:
Do you read the Guardian's daily updates? Last few days have been topped by somewhat negative pieces towards Ukraine. Mood music changing? Or am I reading too much into it.
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I was watching a CH4 News story last night where their reporter Paraic O'Brien is with a 'M*A*S*H*' unit on the front line in the east. It was very conspicuous that even the medics there were furious with the Ukrainians whole refused to fight or join up in some way shape or form.

The fact is there's a real rupture in Ukrainian society that hardly gets mentioned. The country has lost its moral certainty that fighting on is the right thing to do.
 
davek said:
I was watching a CH4 News story last night where their reporter Paraic O'Brien is with a 'M*A*S*H*' unit on the front line in the east. It was very conspicuous that even the medics there were furious with the Ukrainians whole refused to fight or join up in some way shape or form.

The fact is there's a real rupture in Ukrainian society that hardly gets mentioned. The country has lost its moral certainty that fighting on is the right thing to do.
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That rupture has been there for a considerable time. But it's starting to make its way into the mainstream here more and more.

My suspicious nature makes me think that the appetite for supporting Ukraine is decreasing.
 
Vlads red lines

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Time to make Russia worry about the West's red lines in Ukraine

Even talking about Western red lines in Ukraine will no doubt be seen as too provocative by some, but it is now obvious that allowing Russia uncontested escalation dominance has been a costly blunder, writes Mykola Bielieskov.
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The Week In Russia: 'So Many Red Lines'

President Vladimir Putin rattles Russia’s nuclear sabers once again, but analysts say it’s more signals than substance. And as Moscow’s war against Ukraine heads toward winter, the Kremlin seeks to fill the ranks amid grinding territorial gains and massive human losses.
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Putin is becoming entangled in his own discredited red lines

Putin is attempting to impose a new red line over the use of Western long-range missiles inside Russia, but Ukraine has already been using these weapons in occupied regions claimed by Russia for more than a year, writes Peter Dickinson.
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Yarrgh said:
That rupture has been there for a considerable time. But it's starting to make its way into the mainstream here more and more.

My suspicious nature makes me think that the appetite for supporting Ukraine is decreasing.
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Western governments want cheap food and fuel and minerals to keep their own populations reasonably doped up on consumerism.

The pull will be away from tilting into recession with costly wars that cut off supplies of all of the above...that will eventually trump the geo-political considerations - or certainly skew them.
 
Key Takeaways:

  • The Russian offensive effort in eastern Ukraine that began in fall 2023 continues to produce gradual Russian tactical gains in specific sectors of the front, but operationally significant gains will likely continue to elude Russian forces.
  • Ukrainian forces are conducting an effective defense in depth along the frontline, inflicting significant losses upon Russian forces while slowly giving ground but preventing the Russian military from making more rapid gains on the battlefield.
  • Ukrainian forces do face serious operational challenges and constraints, which are providing Russian forces with opportunities to pursue tactically significant gains.
  • Russian forces do not have the available manpower and materiel to continue intensified offensive efforts indefinitely, however, and current Russian offensive operations in eastern Ukraine will likely culminate in the coming months, if not weeks, as Ukrainian officials and ISW have previously assessed.
  • Russian forces have recently made notable tactical gains but have not demonstrated a capacity to seize operationally significant objectives.
  • The Russian military command prepared the ongoing Russian summer 2024 offensive operation for months in advance and accumulated operational reserves and resources for the operation that the recent months of attritional fighting have likely heavily degraded.
  • Russian forces have reportedly committed a significant portion of their intended operational reserves to offensive operations in Donetsk and northern Kharkiv oblasts, indicating that the Russian military command may have prioritized forming operational reserves to support offensive operations in priority sectors of the frontline over developing theater-wide strategic reserves for the entire offensive campaign in Ukraine.
  • The Russian military command is continuing to prioritize offensive operations in priority sectors of the frontline over long-term planning for Russia's theater-wide campaign in Ukraine, but the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast appears to have significantly complicated the development of Russia's operational reserves.
  • Russian President Vladimir Putin appears to be using the "Time of Heroes" veteran support program to militarize regional and local government administrations and further solidify a pro-war ideology into the Russian state and society.
  • Russian authorities continue to arrest Russian officials on charges related to mismanagement and corruption within the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD).
  • Strikes reportedly targeted an ammunition depot near Russia's Hmeimim Airbase in Latakia Province, Syria overnight on October 2 to 3.
  • Russian forces recently advanced south of Siversk and east and southeast of Pokrovsk in Donetsk Oblast.
  • Russian authorities continue to nationalize Russian enterprises for the benefit of the federal government
understandingwar.org

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, October 3, 2024

The Russian offensive effort in eastern Ukraine that began in fall 2023 continues to produce gradual Russian tactical gains in specific sectors of the front, but operationally significant gains will likely continue to elude Russian forces. (ISW distinguishes between tactical gains, which are...
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The problem with Western Ukraine is that they wanted to build their identity as a nation around Nazism. Bandera is considered the national hero, and the anti-Russia Ukrainian Nazi collaborators of World War II are revered. Added to this situation is the contempt for the ethnically Russian minority of eastern Ukraine. Since the 2010s, a campaign of contempt has begun on the part of the most prominent politicians with explicit calls to kill Russian-speaking Ukrainians. NATO bears a lot of responsibility in this mess with its warmongering attitude which fomented and supported these Nazi fringes with a crazy anti-Russian outlook. To resolve the issue, the Russian-speaking territory must be ceded to the motherland Russia and the Ukrainians must abandon Nazi idolatry. Having a fanatical Nazi neighboring country cannot be tolerated by Russia
 
Spadge Vernacular said:
Key Takeaways:

  • The Russian offensive effort in eastern Ukraine that began in fall 2023 continues to produce gradual Russian tactical gains in specific sectors of the front, but operationally significant gains will likely continue to elude Russian forces.
  • Ukrainian forces are conducting an effective defense in depth along the frontline, inflicting significant losses upon Russian forces while slowly giving ground but preventing the Russian military from making more rapid gains on the battlefield.
  • Ukrainian forces do face serious operational challenges and constraints, which are providing Russian forces with opportunities to pursue tactically significant gains.
  • Russian forces do not have the available manpower and materiel to continue intensified offensive efforts indefinitely, however, and current Russian offensive operations in eastern Ukraine will likely culminate in the coming months, if not weeks, as Ukrainian officials and ISW have previously assessed.
  • Russian forces have recently made notable tactical gains but have not demonstrated a capacity to seize operationally significant objectives.
  • The Russian military command prepared the ongoing Russian summer 2024 offensive operation for months in advance and accumulated operational reserves and resources for the operation that the recent months of attritional fighting have likely heavily degraded.
  • Russian forces have reportedly committed a significant portion of their intended operational reserves to offensive operations in Donetsk and northern Kharkiv oblasts, indicating that the Russian military command may have prioritized forming operational reserves to support offensive operations in priority sectors of the frontline over developing theater-wide strategic reserves for the entire offensive campaign in Ukraine.
  • The Russian military command is continuing to prioritize offensive operations in priority sectors of the frontline over long-term planning for Russia's theater-wide campaign in Ukraine, but the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast appears to have significantly complicated the development of Russia's operational reserves.
  • Russian President Vladimir Putin appears to be using the "Time of Heroes" veteran support program to militarize regional and local government administrations and further solidify a pro-war ideology into the Russian state and society.
  • Russian authorities continue to arrest Russian officials on charges related to mismanagement and corruption within the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD).
  • Strikes reportedly targeted an ammunition depot near Russia's Hmeimim Airbase in Latakia Province, Syria overnight on October 2 to 3.
  • Russian forces recently advanced south of Siversk and east and southeast of Pokrovsk in Donetsk Oblast.
  • Russian authorities continue to nationalize Russian enterprises for the benefit of the federal government
understandingwar.org

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, October 3, 2024

The Russian offensive effort in eastern Ukraine that began in fall 2023 continues to produce gradual Russian tactical gains in specific sectors of the front, but operationally significant gains will likely continue to elude Russian forces. (ISW distinguishes between tactical gains, which are...
understandingwar.org understandingwar.org
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Pass me a bag of potatoes but that's quite the spin to put on recent events in the war.
 
Yarrgh said:
Do you read the Guardian's daily updates? Last few days have been topped by somewhat negative pieces towards Ukraine. Mood music changing? Or am I reading too much into it.
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Sorry mate, I missed this. I'd say that there is to and fro and some differing views among journos. It would seem that the American GE and whether the Iran regime survives/prospers from the current mayhem in the middle east are immediate concerns.
 
Spadge Vernacular said:
Sorry mate, I missed this. I'd say that there is to and fro and some differing views among journos. It would seem that the American GE and whether the Iran regime survives/prospers from the current mayhem in the middle east are immediate concerns.
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Promise me you'll never stop posting,the lads I work with are big fans. You're comedy good.
 
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Yarrgh said:
There's been some terrible videos of soldiers hors combat or already surrendered being killed. It's a war crime.
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What about car bombing alleged traitors in Donbass. Execution without trial. One judge and a nuclear plant worker in the last week. Ukrainian justice?
 
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