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davek said:
I watched a news report on Pokrovsk the other day with about 18,000 people still left in the besieged city. Turns out that many of them are Russian speakers and identify more with Russia and are staying because of that.

I'm not sure if Russian artillery is going to be able to tell the difference between citizens like. 🤷‍♂️
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Could be a long wait as the Russian forces are probably not going to get there this year. They have surrounded the place in terms of it being of any logistical use and are concentrating more to the south as that seems to be were the opportunities opened up. I suspect that Vulehdar being taken had not been on the cards until a few weeks ago.

Having said that if the weather stays good well into October then all is possible.
 
Yarrgh said:
Could be a long wait as the Russian forces are probably not going to get there this year. They have surrounded the place in terms of it being of any logistical use and are concentrating more to the south as that seems to be were the opportunities opened up. I suspect that Vulehdar being taken had not been on the cards until a few weeks ago.

Having said that if the weather stays good well into October then all is possible.
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Possibly, yes. But they're doing what they did before Bakhmut: laying the city to waste prior to moving in.

We're still only in September - it's 22 degrees there right now - and the real winter bite doesn't come on until early November.
 
davek said:
Possibly, yes. But they're doing what they did before Bakhmut: laying the city to waste prior to moving in.

We're still only in September - it's 22 degrees there right now - and the real winter bite doesn't come on until early November.
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Conversely that's one long front that has empty areas that can't be tackled in the winter as 'easily' as in warm weather. The Russians have been determinedly opportunist in the last couple of months and it's paid off - anyway I think one thing and then the opposite happens so what do I know?
 
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