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[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[PhilM]

There’s talk about the Ukrainian’s capturing a key gas pipeline into the EU from Russia. Do they want to keep it or will it now be out of order?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Here's a summary of the situation from ISW.

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, August 7, 2024

Ukrainian forces have made confirmed advances up to 10 kilometers into Russia's Kursk Oblast amid continued mechanized offensive operations on Russian territory on August 7. Geolocated footage published on August 6 and 7 shows that Ukrainian armored vehicles have advanced to positions along the...

www.understandingwar.org

 

[Yarrgh]

There’s talk about the Ukrainian’s capturing a key gas pipeline into the EU from Russia. Do they want to keep it or will it now be out of order?

Now that's a good question. Interesting that the Russians show a deeper incursion than the Ukrainian maps.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Imagine the uproar if Ukraine followed the Russian playbook and said they'd held a referendum and the Kursk regions had voted to become Ukrainian

 

[dublinbluenose]

Here's a summary of the situation from ISW.

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, August 7, 2024

Ukrainian forces have made confirmed advances up to 10 kilometers into Russia's Kursk Oblast amid continued mechanized offensive operations on Russian territory on August 7. Geolocated footage published on August 6 and 7 shows that Ukrainian armored vehicles have advanced to positions along the...

www.understandingwar.org

It's hard to understand what the purpose of the incursion is? Guts of 2,000 men and associated motorised riffles etc diverted from the front?

Or is this the Russian legion again?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

It's hard to understand what the purpose of the incursion is? Guts of 2,000 men and associated motorised riffles etc diverted from the front?

Or is this the Russian legion again?

It seems to have caught everyone by surprise. The Uke soldiers apparently took control of the Sudzha gas station. This is the only operational pipeline supplying Europe. They're also close to a nuclear power plant so might see this as a possible bargaining tool.

 

[Yarrgh]

It's hard to understand what the purpose of the incursion is? Guts of 2,000 men and associated motorised riffles etc diverted from the front?

Or is this the Russian legion again?

They were talking about it being one of the Russian legions yesterday, but now that it's actual Ukrainian forces.

As for who and why ... we will see what happens and how it plays out, same as everywhere else.

 

[Tim's tourettes]

It seems to have caught everyone by surprise. The Uke soldiers apparently took control of the Sudzha gas station. This is the only operational pipeline supplying Europe. They're also close to a nuclear power plant so might see this as a possible bargaining tool.

I'd think so.... just as there seems to be some genuine talk of negotiation, Ukraine getting a bit more power to their elbow?

 

[PhilM]

It's hard to understand what the purpose of the incursion is? Guts of 2,000 men and associated motorised riffles etc diverted from the front?

Or is this the Russian legion again?

The gas pipeline is of strategic and fiscal importance, to both sides. In terms of moral too, it gives the Ukraine a boost and the Russians not.

Also, they’ve shown they can push relatively deep into Russian lines, which suggests their lines are fragile. So what will Russia do in response to it?

Well one may be they divert troops away from other areas, which will lessen their ability to attack along other parts of the front.

If it sews seeds of doubt into Russian commanders, it’s purpose is clear to see.

 

[dublinbluenose]

The gas pipeline is of strategic and fiscal importance, to both sides. In terms of moral too, it gives the Ukraine a boost and the Russians not.

Also, they’ve shown they can push relatively deep into Russian lines, which suggests their lines are fragile. So what will Russia do in response to it?

Well one may be they divert troops away from other areas, which will lessen their ability to attack along other parts of the front.

If it sews seeds of doubt into Russian commanders, it’s purpose is clear to see.

Maybe you're right, if the pipeline was the goal.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Imagine the uproar if Ukraine followed the Russian playbook and said they'd held a referendum and the Kursk regions had voted to become Ukrainian

I see the trolling has begun.

 

[peteblue]

Here's a summary of the situation from ISW.

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, August 7, 2024

Ukrainian forces have made confirmed advances up to 10 kilometers into Russia's Kursk Oblast amid continued mechanized offensive operations on Russian territory on August 7. Geolocated footage published on August 6 and 7 shows that Ukrainian armored vehicles have advanced to positions along the...

www.understandingwar.org

I love that Russian phrase of ‘large scale provocation’. Obviously aimed at its own populace, who if not now shortly must see the enormous loss of life in the Russian army. They’ve spent a couple of years invading, murdering and destroying whatever they could in Ukraine, now there’s a small incursion into Russia it’s deemed a ‘large scale provocation’…

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I love that Russian phrase of ‘large scale provocation’. Obviously aimed at its own populace, who if not now shortly must see the enormous loss of life in the Russian army. They’ve spent a couple of years invading, murdering and destroying whatever they could in Ukraine, now there’s a small incursion into Russia it’s deemed a ‘large scale provocation’…

They have absolutely no shame!

 

[PhilM]