Current Affairs Ukraine

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Russian forces are reportedly increasing their use of chemical weapons in Ukraine in continued apparent violations of the Chemical Weapons Convention, to which Russia is party. Spokesperson for the Ukrainian Center for the Research of Trophy and Prospective Weapons and Military Equipment of the Ukrainian General Staff Captain Andrii Rudyk stated on January 25 that Russian forces began using RG-VO grenades with chloroacetophenone, a type of tear gas used for riot control (also known as a Riot Control Agent [RCA]), in December 2023 and that Ukrainian officials observed 81 instances of Russian forces using the RG-VO grenades in December 2023.[17] The Ukrainian General Staff reported on January 13 that Russian forces began using a new type of special gas grenade containing CS gas (2-Chlorobenzalmalononitrile – also an RCA) on December 14 and that Russian forces have used chemical weapons at least 51 times in the first two weeks of 2024.[18] The Russian 810th Naval Infantry Brigade previously acknowledged on December 22 that the brigade deliberately uses chemical weapons by dropping K-51 grenades with CS gas from drones onto Ukrainian positions near Krynky in the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast.[19] Rudyk stated that the RG-VO grenades can kill personnel in a dugout or an enclosed room within five minutes and that a study found that a recently used Russian RG-VO grenade was manufactured in an unspecified but likely Russian factory in 2023.[20] Rudyk added that Russia may be trying to gauge international reactions to the Russian use of chemical weapons in Ukraine in order to expand the type of weapons Russian forces are using.[21] Russia is party to the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), which prohibits the use of RCAs as a method of warfare.[22]
 
Russian forces are reportedly increasing their use of chemical weapons in Ukraine in continued apparent violations of the Chemical Weapons Convention, to which Russia is party. Spokesperson for the Ukrainian Center for the Research of Trophy and Prospective Weapons and Military Equipment of the Ukrainian General Staff Captain Andrii Rudyk stated on January 25 that Russian forces began using RG-VO grenades with chloroacetophenone, a type of tear gas used for riot control (also known as a Riot Control Agent [RCA]), in December 2023 and that Ukrainian officials observed 81 instances of Russian forces using the RG-VO grenades in December 2023.[17] The Ukrainian General Staff reported on January 13 that Russian forces began using a new type of special gas grenade containing CS gas (2-Chlorobenzalmalononitrile – also an RCA) on December 14 and that Russian forces have used chemical weapons at least 51 times in the first two weeks of 2024.[18] The Russian 810th Naval Infantry Brigade previously acknowledged on December 22 that the brigade deliberately uses chemical weapons by dropping K-51 grenades with CS gas from drones onto Ukrainian positions near Krynky in the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast.[19] Rudyk stated that the RG-VO grenades can kill personnel in a dugout or an enclosed room within five minutes and that a study found that a recently used Russian RG-VO grenade was manufactured in an unspecified but likely Russian factory in 2023.[20] Rudyk added that Russia may be trying to gauge international reactions to the Russian use of chemical weapons in Ukraine in order to expand the type of weapons Russian forces are using.[21] Russia is party to the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), which prohibits the use of RCAs as a method of warfare.[22]
 
Russian forces are reportedly increasing their use of chemical weapons in Ukraine in continued apparent violations of the Chemical Weapons Convention, to which Russia is party. Spokesperson for the Ukrainian Center for the Research of Trophy and Prospective Weapons and Military Equipment of the Ukrainian General Staff Captain Andrii Rudyk stated on January 25 that Russian forces began using RG-VO grenades with chloroacetophenone, a type of tear gas used for riot control (also known as a Riot Control Agent [RCA]), in December 2023 and that Ukrainian officials observed 81 instances of Russian forces using the RG-VO grenades in December 2023.[17] The Ukrainian General Staff reported on January 13 that Russian forces began using a new type of special gas grenade containing CS gas (2-Chlorobenzalmalononitrile – also an RCA) on December 14 and that Russian forces have used chemical weapons at least 51 times in the first two weeks of 2024.[18] The Russian 810th Naval Infantry Brigade previously acknowledged on December 22 that the brigade deliberately uses chemical weapons by dropping K-51 grenades with CS gas from drones onto Ukrainian positions near Krynky in the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast.[19] Rudyk stated that the RG-VO grenades can kill personnel in a dugout or an enclosed room within five minutes and that a study found that a recently used Russian RG-VO grenade was manufactured in an unspecified but likely Russian factory in 2023.[20] Rudyk added that Russia may be trying to gauge international reactions to the Russian use of chemical weapons in Ukraine in order to expand the type of weapons Russian forces are using.[21] Russia is party to the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), which prohibits the use of RCAs as a method of warfare.[22]
And people say the British government gives us nothing to look forward to...
 
I'm sure the majority of the public will be behind that but I notice there's no talk of kicking them out, just keeping them in and destroying them. Got to make you wonder if they've enacted this sort of thing previously for other "transgressions", and how standard this sort of thinking is...
Greece might have an opinion about that, albeit from a different position.
 

It's the Articles of Confederation all over again.

Something resembling a functioning EU will require similar reforms, and the political compromises necessary to make it happen would be as anti-majoritarian as the document that emerged from the Constitutional Convention. The member states will not want to be governed from Paris and Berlin, but they will also want to see broad majorities prevail. The Ukraine problem proves the latter.

The results would also likely be an improvement on the present situation. It's way too cheap for a foreign power to bribe its way to EU inaction as things stand, relative to the prospective benefits. Benjamin Franklin happens to be dead wrong about the liberty/security tradeoff, at least when it comes to cooperative security.

I'm sure the majority of the public will be behind that but I notice there's no talk of kicking them out, just keeping them in and destroying them. Got to make you wonder if they've enacted this sort of thing previously for other "transgressions", and how standard this sort of thinking is...
Like NATO and the United States Constitution, the EU has no provisions for expelling a member state. There can't be. Why would a state invest in, and make sacrifices for, a cooperative security and/or economic arrangement from which it can be removed at any time? That's far more risk than any government could or should accept.

There has been talk of stripping Hungary of voting rights under Article 7, but getting to unanimity on that one would be difficult. There are ample member states with good reason to believe they might be next up on the docket, and the French are reluctant to set the precedent unless they feel all diplomatic alternatives have been exhausted.
 
I'm sure the majority of the public will be behind that but I notice there's no talk of kicking them out, just keeping them in and destroying them. Got to make you wonder if they've enacted this sort of thing previously for other "transgressions", and how standard this sort of thinking is...
20 years ago there was attempted isolation of Austria by EU (mostly on French insistence) when Joerg Haider (leader of right wing party) won elections.
If i recall correctly it wasn't pretty effective.
 
It's the Articles of Confederation all over again.

Something resembling a functioning EU will require similar reforms, and the political compromises necessary to make it happen would be as anti-majoritarian as the document that emerged from the Constitutional Convention. The member states will not want to be governed from Paris and Berlin, but they will also want to see broad majorities prevail. The Ukraine problem proves the latter.

The results would also likely be an improvement on the present situation. It's way too cheap for a foreign power to bribe its way to EU inaction as things stand, relative to the prospective benefits. Benjamin Franklin happens to be dead wrong about the liberty/security tradeoff, at least when it comes to cooperative security.


Like NATO and the United States Constitution, the EU has no provisions for expelling a member state. There can't be. Why would a state invest in, and make sacrifices for, a cooperative security and/or economic arrangement from which it can be removed at any time? That's far more risk than any government could or should accept.

There has been talk of stripping Hungary of voting rights under Article 7, but getting to unanimity on that one would be difficult. There are ample member states with good reason to believe they might be next up on the docket, and the French are reluctant to set the precedent unless they feel all diplomatic alternatives have been exhausted.

And people wonder why we left this totally dysfunctional organisation……..
 
dysfunctional.

good gin this evening.
It does not work well. It works surprisingly well given its structural problems. It didn't take us long to throw up our hands at a similar governance structure, but then again, we also had a war to pay for after the fact.

History suggests that's a bad way for Americans to handle that problem. We did, after all, fight a war of independence to get out of paying the bill for the preceding war.
 
It does not work well. It works surprisingly well given its structural problems. It didn't take us long to throw up our hands at a similar governance structure, but then again, we also had a war to pay for after the fact.

History suggests that's a bad way for Americans to handle that problem. We did, after all, fight a war of independence to get out of paying the bill for the preceding war.
righty-oh.
mine was another mocking post to herr pepe.
 
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