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Letter: Ukraine’s partners need to stand united against Russia’s illegal war

From the prime ministers of Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Iceland and the president of Finland

As Russia’s war of aggression continues, we need to double down on our commitment to long-term political, financial, military and diplomatic support to Ukraine.

This is a critical time for Ukraine, for Europe and for global security. Lessening support to Ukraine now is not an option. On the contrary, now is the time to harness support and stick to our plans for how we will help Ukraine be successful in the war, rebuild the country and defend itselfin the long run.

Russia is eager to exploit divisions. We must continue to stand united against Russia’s illegal and immoral war just as we have done since the invasion. Otherwise we risk a world with less freedom and less security for decades, if not generations, to come.

As the war approaches its two-year mark, we must reaffirm our support to Ukraine. We should continue to contribute to Ukraine’s long-term security, bolster short-term civilian humanitarian aid, as well as the reconstruction efforts, and support its pursuit of a just peace.

Ukraine cannot defend itself against Russia with only words. The war is not won without weapons. For Ukraine to be able to defend its territory and secure its internationally recognised borders, we the Nordic countries will continue to provide comprehensive assistance to Ukraine, including economic and military support, immediate humanitarian aid for civilians and financial support to aid in the reconstruction of Ukrainian society when conditions allow. We need to continue to do our best to deliver what Ukraine needs.

Brave Ukrainian soldiers are fighting every day. Their fight for freedom is our fight as well. Ukraine’s freedom is inextricably linked to ours.

How we act in supporting Ukraine is being closely monitored. Our message must be that we cannot let them down. We must show that our beliefs in human dignity, freedom and justice are not negotiable. We will not allow an aggressor to dictate the terms of European security.

The Ukrainians fight courageously for their country’s very existence. For freedom, for democracy and for the right to decide one’s own future. Over the last 22 months, they have inspired and impressed the world and continue to do so.

Ukraine needs our continued support, our partnership and our solidarity more than ever. Their fight for freedom depends on our perseverance in staying the course. Our shared security depends on it as well.

Now is not the time to tire.

Mette Frederiksen Prime Minister of Denmark
Jonas Gahr Støre Prime Minister of Norway
Sauli Niinistö President of Finland
Ulf Kristersson Prime Minister of Sweden
Katrín Jakobsdóttir Prime Minister of Iceland

 
Letter: Ukraine’s partners need to stand united against Russia’s illegal war

From the prime ministers of Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Iceland and the president of Finland

As Russia’s war of aggression continues, we need to double down on our commitment to long-term political, financial, military and diplomatic support to Ukraine.

This is a critical time for Ukraine, for Europe and for global security. Lessening support to Ukraine now is not an option. On the contrary, now is the time to harness support and stick to our plans for how we will help Ukraine be successful in the war, rebuild the country and defend itselfin the long run.

Russia is eager to exploit divisions. We must continue to stand united against Russia’s illegal and immoral war just as we have done since the invasion. Otherwise we risk a world with less freedom and less security for decades, if not generations, to come.

As the war approaches its two-year mark, we must reaffirm our support to Ukraine. We should continue to contribute to Ukraine’s long-term security, bolster short-term civilian humanitarian aid, as well as the reconstruction efforts, and support its pursuit of a just peace.

Ukraine cannot defend itself against Russia with only words. The war is not won without weapons. For Ukraine to be able to defend its territory and secure its internationally recognised borders, we the Nordic countries will continue to provide comprehensive assistance to Ukraine, including economic and military support, immediate humanitarian aid for civilians and financial support to aid in the reconstruction of Ukrainian society when conditions allow. We need to continue to do our best to deliver what Ukraine needs.

Brave Ukrainian soldiers are fighting every day. Their fight for freedom is our fight as well. Ukraine’s freedom is inextricably linked to ours.

How we act in supporting Ukraine is being closely monitored. Our message must be that we cannot let them down. We must show that our beliefs in human dignity, freedom and justice are not negotiable. We will not allow an aggressor to dictate the terms of European security.

The Ukrainians fight courageously for their country’s very existence. For freedom, for democracy and for the right to decide one’s own future. Over the last 22 months, they have inspired and impressed the world and continue to do so.

Ukraine needs our continued support, our partnership and our solidarity more than ever. Their fight for freedom depends on our perseverance in staying the course. Our shared security depends on it as well.

Now is not the time to tire.

Mette Frederiksen Prime Minister of Denmark
Jonas Gahr Støre Prime Minister of Norway
Sauli Niinistö President of Finland
Ulf Kristersson Prime Minister of Sweden
Katrín Jakobsdóttir Prime Minister of Iceland

Fine words.

Finland reopened the borders with Russia today. Remember its what people or states do, and not what they say, is how they should be judged.
 
Fine words.

Finland reopened the borders with Russia today. Remember its what people or states do, and not what they say, is how they should be judged.
At a time that the Kremlin PR apparatus is in full swing, desperately trying to split the west the more unified voices the better. Bravo to the Nordic's.

Pro Putin propoganda needs slapping down whenever it tries to shape the agenda.
 
Words from @davek mate


He's right though isn't he?

Russia has taken sanctions in its stride and built up new sources of supply and new markets to exploit.

A country like Germany has been more negatively affected than Russia has. In fact the whole of western Europe suffers through the hike in fuel and food prices.

And for what, at the end of the day?

We need wise heads on both sides now to end this.
 
He's right though isn't he?

Russia has taken sanctions in its stride and built up new sources of supply and new markets to exploit.

A country like Germany has been more negatively affected than Russia has. In fact the whole of western Europe suffers through the hike in fuel and food prices.

And for what, at the end of the day?

We need wise heads on both sides now to end this.
How do you suggest we end this Dave?

Shall we just give Putin Ukraine, Moldova and Poland? May as well just skip the long drawn out wars and give Putin what he wants hey?
 
He's right though isn't he?

Russia has taken sanctions in its stride and built up new sources of supply and new markets to exploit.

A country like Germany has been more negatively affected than Russia has. In fact the whole of western Europe suffers through the hike in fuel and food prices.

And for what, at the end of the day?

We need wise heads on both sides now to end this.
He's right in the sense that economic sanctions rarely work in the way they were intended. I don't need my degree in economics to prove that.

However, the idea that people here in Germany or in the rest of the EU could just carry on trading with the savages in Russia is deluded. The sanctions served a moral purpose to wean people off deep, dangerous, dependent relationships with a bad faith actor.

Also, while the German economy has suffered since the war and COVID, it dwarfs Russia's economy. Russia has lost its biggest customer - and one which is richer than the alternatives. While it has "replaced" some of that trade, we musn't lose sight of the fact that life for the average German is paradise compared to that of the average Russian. Yes, ordinary residents paid more for energy and food, but the state has stepped in to prop people and businesses up. The bleating about the German economy tends to come more from industrialists who lived high on the Russian hog for far too long or austerity-addicted right-wing politicians. Germany's economic "woes" have less to do with Russian sanctions than they do a self-imposed ideological financial strait-jacket that insists on balanced budgets - by law.

Germany could borrow money at cheaper rates than any country on the planet - but the old orthodoxy here has hamstrung it in times of turbulence. In that sense, the time to listen to German industrialists and politicians bleating about sanctions will only be AFTER they get over their rigid adherence to puritanical austerity. As that's not going to happen any time soon, they're going to have to suck up any blowback from sanctions which have happily ensured Germans no longer depend on Russia for energy. No dependence means no compromise. And Germany is now increasing its military funding for both itself and the Ukrainians. Putin's days of divide and conquer by cosying up to bent German politicians are over. People might be iffy about the Ukrainians - I know I am and always have been - but nobody can do business with Putin unless they hold the whip hand. The next time the Germans do business with Putin, it will very much be on their own terms.

Galloway just doesn't want to upset his pals in Moscow. He couldn't care less about blowback in Europe or anywhere else.
 
How do you suggest we end this Dave?

Shall we just give Putin Ukraine, Moldova and Poland? May as well just skip the long drawn out wars and give Putin what he wants hey?
No, of course not.

We must see the reality of the situation though. The territories in the east now held by Russia won't be returned any time soon. And I doubt that the majority in those territories - which are majority ethnically Russian - would wish to go back into Ukraine.

Ukraine has to be given assurances though that they are getting reconstruction aid from the West to make their country viable economically and politically. Look at the concerns published today of a poll of Ukrainians who want peace and security - no more Russian encroachments and an end to the war, no more corruption (of which the Zelensky regime presides over - as others have), secure employment and rising wages, the rebuilding of houses bombed and other infrastructure knocked out. THAT is what ordinary Ukrainians crave.


Keyboard warriors don't want to hear that though. They just want to get a buzz out of pushing stage armies about a map and reading about war technology as they play General.
 
He's right in the sense that economic sanctions rarely work in the way they were intended. I don't need my degree in economics to prove that.
I can do you one better. Sanctions don't work. They're designed to be punitive in a way that's consistent with political objectives.

The threat of sanctions has power. If you observe sanctions, the threat failed, so you should never expect sanctions to work. This logic has strong empirical support.

I agree with your broader assessment there that governments have an obligation to determine when a trade (or other) relationship is not consistent with the nation's security objectives, accept the domestic political consequences resulting from short-term economic pain, and terminate the relationship.
 
No, of course not.

We must see the reality of the situation though. The territories in the east now held by Russia won't be returned any time soon. And I doubt that the majority in those territories - which are majority ethnically Russian - would wish to go back into Ukraine.

Ukraine has to be given assurances though that they are getting reconstruction aid from the West to make their country viable economically and politically. Look at the concerns published today of a poll of Ukrainians who want peace and security - no more Russian encroachments and an end to the war, no more corruption (of which the Zelensky regime presides over - as others have), secure employment and rising wages, the rebuilding of houses bombed and other infrastructure knocked out. THAT is what ordinary Ukrainians crave.


Keyboard warriors don't want to hear that though. They just want to get a buzz out of pushing stage armies about a map and reading about war technology as they play General.
Im shocked to hear that the Ukraine people would rather not be at war and would rather live a peaceful life.

Who would have thought it.

Maybe ask the people in Gaza and Syria if living in a warzone is a fun time.
 
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