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Part of the Russian PR, was this planned or an opportunity to exploit?

Discussing the Russia Hamas partnership - Abu Marzouk “how we can jointly determine a future for the region and the entire humankind that would differ from (the one) that the U.S. tries to paint.”

That Russia’s invitation to Hamas to visit was a “message to the entire world that Russia considers Hamas not a terrorist but a liberation movement that defends the rights of its people and wages a war for justice.”
 
Propagandists - are you 12?

If you can link up any propaganda I've posted in this thread please do.

Posting a link to a thread about consistent rumours of something is hardly propaganda.
Why are you telling everyone Putin is dead when he clearly isn;t?

Does that not fall under the category 'propaganda'?
 

Hell of a lot of caveats to that headlined claim.

EU leaders back using earnings from Russia’s frozen assets to help Ukraine​

European Commission expected to put forward legal proposals in December

EU leaders have endorsed plans to use billions of euros in earnings generated by frozen Russian assets to help Ukraine, with the European Commission expected to put forward legal proposals in early December.

Western sanctions have immobilised $300bn belonging to Russia’s central bank since Moscow launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine last year. The lion’s share — €180bn according to the Belgian government — is held at Euroclear, the world’s largest securities depository, headquartered in Brussels.

“Politically, we agreed that ultimately Russia must pay for the long-term reconstruction of Ukraine,” European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen said on Friday after a summit of EU leaders.

“We are currently working on an initial proposal to focus on the so-called windfall profits,” she added. “These windfall profits are already quite substantial. The idea is that we pool them and channel them, through the EU budget . . . to Ukraine.”

The commission intends to table a plan in early December that would facilitate the transfer of proceeds of the frozen assets to Kyiv, two senior officials involved in its preparation told the Financial Times.

“These conclusions are a green light for us,” said one of these people, referring to a joint statement from the leaders “to accelerate work with a view to submitting proposals”.

Euroclear on Thursday said it earned €3bn on the frozen Russian assets in the first nine months of this year alone, compared with €347mn in the same period in 2022, an increase propelled by rising interest rates.

Coupon payments and bond redemptions due on the immobilised Russian assets have remained stuck at Euroclear, as they cannot be paid out to clients who are subject to sanctions. The securities depository routinely reinvests such cash balances, and rising interest rates have meant that Euroclear is earning more through those investments.

EU officials have been looking at ways to funnel those proceeds to Ukraine, but the European Central Bank has warned of potential risks to the euro in accessing these earnings, warning that it could induce other central banks to abandon their euro-denominated assets and weaken the currency.

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Brussels is in regular contact with London and Washington to ensure their approaches are synchronised, the two senior officials added.

Several member states, such as Germany, had previously been sceptical about the plans because of legal concerns around ownership of the funds. Those concerns were assuaged earlier this month when US Treasury secretary Janet Yellen swung behind the idea of skimming off windfall profits. The G7 has also endorsed the plans.

Estonia, one of the countries strongly pushing for this measure, said it was important for Russia to pay for the damage it was doing in Ukraine. “The restoring of the damages that Russia has caused, it has to be paid by Russia . . . so we have to think outside of the box,” said Estonian premier Kaja Kallas.

The EU proposals in December are expected to clarify the legal obligations around windfall earnings at securities depositories such as Euroclear and mandate that they be set aside. Only in a later step, expected next year, will legislation be tabled to actually seize and redistribute the funds to Kyiv.
 
I didnt tell anyone anything. I quoted a tweet about one of many rumours circulating all week about Putin.

This is an example of propaganda


You just quoted with no intent whatsoever?

That sounds a bit far fetched doesn't it?

Do you usually post random claims from the internet or is it usually about Russia?
 
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You just quoted with no intent whatsoever?

That sounds a bit far fetched doesn't it?

Do you usually post random claims from the internet or is it usually about Russia?
I think quoting a rumour about the head of state of one of two countries at war in the thread dedicated to the war is fair game.

I'd have posted the same about Zelensky.

The tweet clearly says its a rumour also.
 
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