Current Affairs Ukraine

[Runub]

Is that heart failure brought on from ‘falling’ from a high building?

Chairman of Russia's oil major Lukoil dies suddenly aged 66

Vladimir Nekrasov, the chairman of Russia's second-largest oil producer Lukoil , has died suddenly at the age of 66 after suffering acute heart failure, the company said on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

 

[ramacca]

Thanks for the analysis.

I suppose another outcome could be that Ukraine diverts troops trying to make a breakthrough in Zaporizhzhia oblast to meet this new threat?

That's what they should do, but the fixation on Crimea will always be uppermost in their planning. The US warned them that Crimea is lost, forget it but they can't. Even now, with all that is happening elsewhere, they still put resources and soldiers into that area.

 

[ramacca]

 

[davek]

That's what they should do, but the fixation on Crimea will always be uppermost in their planning. The US warned them that Crimea is lost, forget it but they can't. Even now, with all that is happening elsewhere, they still put resources and soldiers into that area.

 

[davek]

Where've they got them from, China?

 

[Wat Tyler]

It's a victory. That's the significance. Just to set the winter freeze up. Russian land gains have been greater than their losses since the Ukrainian counteroffensive. The twittering hordes will know how the momentum was.

It's getting colder. Both sides will recoup. If the middle east deteriorates, then Ukrainian replenishment might not be as they expected. By the end if winter, the US will be treating Ukraine and Israel as political footballs. Ukraine would be the loser if the US had to go all in for Israel.

Very dangerous times for Ukraine. Their destiny might not be in their hands anymore after winter kicks in.

Makes Zelensky’s cheering on of Israeli crimes all the more remarkable.

 

[ramacca]

Where've they got them from, China?

Home grown. Russia has the best air defence system, that feeds into topnotch missiles to penetrate the air defence. Then both are tested in battlefield conditions then tweeked as needed. Getting hold of up to date western missiles, to see what they are capable off, is slso important. Again tweeked if needed. The new kid on the block drones work on the same principle, finely tuned to deal with ongoing warfare. They are able to cyber block loads of Ukraine/western hardware. It's a cat and mouse game with Russia leading the chase. Soviet/Russian planes were/are also topnotch.
Dismissing Russian military capabilities, both hardware and soldiering is for the fairies. Those really in the know in the west
are worried.

 

[COYBL25]

Home grown. Russia has the best air defence system, that feeds into topnotch missiles to penetrate the air defence. Then both are tested in battlefield conditions then tweeked as needed. Getting hold of up to date western missiles, to see what they are capable off, is slso important. Again tweeked if needed. The new kid on the block drones work on the same principle, finely tuned to deal with ongoing warfare. They are able to cyber block loads of Ukraine/western hardware. It's a cat and mouse game with Russia leading the chase.
Dismissing Russian military capabilities, both hardware and soldiering is for the fairies. Those really in the know are worried.

I’ll listen to people who have real time experience and expertise in matters of armaments and tactics, like @Mutzo Nutzo over Putins sock puppets tbh.

 

[davek]

Home grown. Russia has the best air defence system, that feeds into topnotch missiles to penetrate the air defence. Then both are tested in battlefield conditions then tweeked as needed. Getting hold of up to date western missiles, to see what they are capable off, is slso important. Again tweeked if needed. The new kid on the block drones work on the same principle, finely tuned to deal with ongoing warfare. They are able to cyber block loads of Ukraine/western hardware. It's a cat and mouse game with Russia leading the chase. Soviet/Russian planes were/are also topnotch.
Dismissing Russian military capabilities, both hardware and soldiering is for the fairies. Those really in the know in the west
are worried.

I suppose 20 months operating in an effective testing laboratory of war has fast tracked new innovation. War does that.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Yeah top NK tech



No coincidence that this new super news comes of the back of the largest loss of miltary aircraft for Russia in one smack since WW2.

 

[ramacca]

I suppose 20 months operating in an effective testing laboratory of war has fast tracked new innovation. War does that.

And potential customers.

"Turkey's Russian air defence systems and U.S. response | Reuters" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/turkeys-russian-air-defence-systems-us-response-2021-10-01/

The way Germany and the US acted over, who should send their top range tanks to Ukraine first was comical. They both knew they'd be taken out as they have been in Iraq and Yemen. Crap tank means no sales. The US one is now virtually abandoned and back to the drawing board. Which any military should do.

."US Army fast tracks Abrams main battle tank modernization" https://newatlas.com/military/us-ar...ssons learned in,remains the ramrod of armies.

 

[Yarrgh]

Makes Zelensky’s cheering on of Israeli crimes all the more remarkable.

It really does. Politically he's not going to go against his backers over that. The president of a country under invasion has the advantage of not having to say anything about the Israeli-Palestinian situation and avoids backing an invading force elsewhere.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

A lot of spin there fella. Looks like the Rus propaganda machine is in overdrive.

The missile shown in the tweet you posted is an R37M (Axehead). It’s not new and had been used by Russia in Ukraine since last November.

It is a very dangerous beyond visual range missile and yes it has caused Ukraine a lot of problems. It’s usually deployed in the MIG-31 or SU-35 fighters.

The target acquisition radars can pick up Uke aircraft at ranges upto 300km, the missiles are then launched (fire and forget fashion).

In the early days the Ukes lost a lot of aircraft but the figures of 10-14 in a single engagement is outlandish and simply untrue as Ukraine barely has 4 aircraft in the air at any one time so I’d say those claims are bollox.

The Ukes have found a way however to spoof the missiles but it’s very dangerous.

When the R37 gets closer to its target its onboard active/passive seeker switches to active mode (at about 30km from target) this radar uses a technology called Doppler shift (don’t wanna get into it here) but the Uke pilots found that they can avoid the missile by using a technique called notching.

Effectively they invert, go into a dive, whilst pulling back hard on the stick. This manouvre can break the missiles active radar lock. Downside is their RWR receivers give them about 15 secs of warning to react and implement this manouvre also they burn a lot of fuel doing this so the overall impact is that their missions get disrupted, so the missile kinda does its job (call it a soft kill).


So in summary:

Nothing new here it’s not a new super weapon

Yes the R37M and it’s launch platforms present BIG problems for Ukraine

They have found ways to avoid being shot down by these missiles but it’s an uneven fight for sure

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Home grown. Russia has the best air defence system, that feeds into topnotch missiles to penetrate the air defence. Then both are tested in battlefield conditions then tweeked as needed. Getting hold of up to date western missiles, to see what they are capable off, is slso important. Again tweeked if needed. The new kid on the block drones work on the same principle, finely tuned to deal with ongoing warfare. They are able to cyber block loads of Ukraine/western hardware. It's a cat and mouse game with Russia leading the chase. Soviet/Russian planes were/are also topnotch.
Dismissing Russian military capabilities, both hardware and soldiering is for the fairies. Those really c in the know in the west
are worried.

Remind me again how many Russian S-400 AD systems have been destroyed by Ukraine?

Remind me again what happened to the Moskva (flagship of the Black Sea fleet) who’s primary goal was to provide air defence for the fleet

Remind me again how Ukraine can successfully execute drone attacks against the centre of Moscows business district (time and time again)

Remind me again how Russia is completely unable to protect its fleet and main port infrastructure of its primary port Sevastopol from regular drone and cruise missile attacks

 

[davek]

And potential customers.

"Turkey's Russian air defence systems and U.S. response | Reuters" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/turkeys-russian-air-defence-systems-us-response-2021-10-01/

The way Germany and the US acted over, who should send their top range tanks to Ukraine first was comical. They both knew they'd be taken out as they have been in Iraq and Yemen. Crap tank means no sales. The US one is now virtually abandoned and back to the drawing board. Which any military should do.

."US Army fast tracks Abrams main battle tank modernization" https://newatlas.com/military/us-army-fast-tracks-abrams-main-battle-tank-modernization/#:~:text=Based on lessons learned in,remains the ramrod of armies.

Very informative links. Thanks.