I haven’t seen any proof of that - have you? Only things I’ve read are purely speculative
Also why would Ukraine damage communications cables between 2 NATO countries?
Makes zero sense for them to do that.
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Also why would Ukraine damage communications cables between 2 NATO countries?
Makes zero sense for them to do that.
tsubaki
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TBF seeing most of the popular English language pro-Ukrainian Twitter lot pumping out pro-Israeli content all of sudden should make a lot of people question them a lot more.
It was bad enough when they were boosting Johnson but how can they of all people be silent (or worse yet apparently cheering) this bombing of cities? This siege?
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There's been enough reports stating it. Seymour Hersh's investigations, for one.
Also, I didn't say Ukraine or Russia damaged the Estonia-Finish cables.
Spadge Vernacular
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It is obvious that Russia and Iran are responsible for countless murders of Ukrainians. Iran proxy Hamas has seen its leaders, including terrorist boss Ismail Haniyah, head to Moscow to meet senior figures several times since the Ukraine war began. A delegation from Islamic Jihad visited Moscow in March. Another Iranian terrorist proxy Hezbollah, has been welcome guests in Moscow. Hezbollah fought in support of Russian troops in Syria and according to US intel is involved in helping Moscow evade sanctions to support Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine. Totally understandable for Ukraine to adopt a position against Russia and its war enabling ally, Iran and its proxy's.
Didn’t realise Seymour Hersh was an expert in undersea sabotage?????There's been enough reports stating it. Seymour Hersh's investigations, for one.
Also, I didn't say Ukraine or Russia damaged the Estonia-Finish cables.
Either way Nordstrom has no relevance to these latest shenanigans.
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Kind of for both threads this...
But why would Hamas leaders travel to meet Russia twice in the past few months?
Surely there must havs been something brewing to taks eyes and minds away from Ukraine?
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I was under the impression that Ukraine didn't have a navy/submariners
Dunno mate. Better ask old Seymour Hersh - he apparently has all the answers
Spadge Vernacular
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Assuming they have not got subs that can go to a reasonable depth or tightly target underwater munitions it would be very impressive if they did manage to carry it out.
Whatever about battlefield success, Russia is a master at propaganda and deception
davek
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Seymour Hersh (born April 8, 1937) is an American investigative journalist and political writer. He gained recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. During the 1970s, Hersh covered the Watergate scandal for The New York Times, also reporting on the secret U.S. bombing of Cambodia and the CIA's program of domestic spying. In 2004, he detailed the U.S. military's torture and abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib in Iraq for The New Yorker. Hersh has won a record five George Polk Awards, and two National Magazine Awards. He is the author of 11 books, including The Price of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon White House (1983), an account of the career of Henry Kissinger which won the National Book Critics Circle Award.
...buy yeah, let's dismiss him and listen to the meanderings of Mutzo Nutzo from Grand Old Team.
Enjoy...
Seymour Hersh: The US Destroyed the Nord Stream Pipeline
Last week, renowned investigative reporter Seymour Hersh published an article claiming that the US was responsible for the destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline transporting natural gas to Germany from Russia. He spoke to Jacobin about the allegations.
jacobin.com
davek
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I’d say he knows as much about undersea sabotage and who did Nordstream as anyone who posts on this site. He’s a journo with half a story ffs. He has evidence from an anonymous source!!! In other words a bloke down the pub told him.Seymour Hersh (born April 8, 1937) is an American investigative journalist and political writer. He gained recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. During the 1970s, Hersh covered the Watergate scandal for The New York Times, also reporting on the secret U.S. bombing of Cambodia and the CIA's program of domestic spying. In 2004, he detailed the U.S. military's torture and abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib in Iraq for The New Yorker. Hersh has won a record five George Polk Awards, and two National Magazine Awards. He is the author of 11 books, including The Price of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon White House (1983), an account of the career of Henry Kissinger which won the National Book Critics Circle Award.
...buy yeah, let's dismiss him and listen to the meanderings of Mutzo Nutzo from Grand Old Team.
Enjoy...
Seymour Hersh: The US Destroyed the Nord Stream Pipeline
Last week, renowned investigative reporter Seymour Hersh published an article claiming that the US was responsible for the destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline transporting natural gas to Germany from Russia. He spoke to Jacobin about the allegations.
Stop trying to deflect. The subject matter was the Finnish-Estonian undersea comms cable cut. This has nothing to do with Nordstream
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Pretty much his whole "story" was proven false by OSINT, but hey, lets not let facts get in the way of you pushing Russian propaganda.Seymour Hersh (born April 8, 1937) is an American investigative journalist and political writer. He gained recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. During the 1970s, Hersh covered the Watergate scandal for The New York Times, also reporting on the secret U.S. bombing of Cambodia and the CIA's program of domestic spying. In 2004, he detailed the U.S. military's torture and abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib in Iraq for The New Yorker. Hersh has won a record five George Polk Awards, and two National Magazine Awards. He is the author of 11 books, including The Price of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon White House (1983), an account of the career of Henry Kissinger which won the National Book Critics Circle Award.
...buy yeah, let's dismiss him and listen to the meanderings of Mutzo Nutzo from Grand Old Team.
Enjoy...
Seymour Hersh: The US Destroyed the Nord Stream Pipeline
Last week, renowned investigative reporter Seymour Hersh published an article claiming that the US was responsible for the destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline transporting natural gas to Germany from Russia. He spoke to Jacobin about the allegations.
Pass on what?
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